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AFK cloaking - are all threads to be locked on that subject?

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Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#1 - 2014-06-18 23:20:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Saisin
When a new thread on that subject is created it is locked and linked to a thread that is also locked....
Edit: removed the actual link for forum compliance

How can any new discussion be held on that subject then?

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Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#2 - 2014-06-18 23:22:29 UTC
Saisin wrote:
When a new thread on that subject is created it is locked and Linked back ... to a thread that is also locked....

How can any new discussion be held on that subject then?



Cause there is nothing new, which you would know if you would use the proper search functions and read through the old collections. expect to be locked again.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2014-06-18 23:24:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
That is the real secret of GD. There is no thread that can be posted here that does not break the rules.

Under the rules:

- Don't repost locked threads
- Don't post redundant threads
- Post in existing threads

Since all threads eventually end up locked after inactivity, you can't post in many existing threads. However you can't open a new thread since that would be redundant and a repost of a locked topic. Hence, every thread you could post here is against the forum rules, and that goes doubly for threads about cloaks.

If you want to discuss it, petition for one of the previous threads to be unlocked.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2014-06-18 23:28:51 UTC
Can you find a thread that actually contains any new discussion at all? Because all I see are the same old ideas being reposted over and over again.
Psychoactive Stimulant
#5 - 2014-06-18 23:57:22 UTC
INB4LOCKED!
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#6 - 2014-06-19 00:04:28 UTC
AFK watching movie, too busy to comment, just putting my name in local.

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Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2014-06-19 00:17:50 UTC
These threads have been around since cloaking and local have. Years of discussion have hashed out pretty much every idea there is.

However, if you wish to submit a discussion revamping the ENTIRE intel line gathering system some people (including me) might be interested. However there will still be trolls and it is likely to be locked.
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#8 - 2014-06-19 00:20:01 UTC
Psychoactive Stimulant wrote:
INB4LOCKED!

Ditto, Ezwal is on a roll this week. Let's see how fast he gets this one.
Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
#9 - 2014-06-19 00:28:28 UTC
I'd comment, but I am away from my keyboard at the moment.

Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.

Iain Cariaba
#10 - 2014-06-19 00:37:20 UTC
Posting on forums while you're hiding in station from my buzzard.
Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#11 - 2014-06-19 00:38:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Saisin
Rowells wrote:
These threads have been around since cloaking and local have. Years of discussion have hashed out pretty much every idea there is.

However, if you wish to submit a discussion revamping the ENTIRE intel line gathering system some people (including me) might be interested. However there will still be trolls and it is likely to be locked.

No I am,posting this because I liked the idea posted on a. recent thread that just got locked before I had a chance to give it my +1
Edit: removed links for forum compliance.

I understand the subject has been probably hashed to death all,ideas about ark cloaking , including this emp effect, have been already put out there..

What I do not understand is where we can discuss the fact that ark cloaking is bad for the game, independently of any proposed solutions.

Is there is a clear consensus amongst the community that in fact ark cloaking is ok, and as such not to be discussed anymore and must and will remain a full part of the game forever.?

This is not the impression I get though,but may be I am wrong.

Fundamentally ark cloaking prevents players from playing the game by players that are not playing the game, and are just logged in to hinder gameplay.
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Kaerakh
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#12 - 2014-06-19 00:47:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaerakh
Saisin wrote:
Rowells wrote:
These threads have been around since cloaking and local have. Years of discussion have hashed out pretty much every idea there is.

However, if you wish to submit a discussion revamping the ENTIRE intel line gathering system some people (including me) might be interested. However there will still be trolls and it is likely to be locked.

No I am,posting this because I liked the emp,like effect idea posted on a recent thread that just got locked before I had a chance to give it my +1
I understand the subject has been probably hashed to death all,ideas about ark cloaking , including this emp effect, have been already put out there..

What I do not understand is where we can discuss the fact that ark cloaking is bad for the game, independently of any proposed solutions.

Is there is a clear consensus amongst the community that in fact ark cloaking is ok, and as such not to be discussed anymore and must and will remain a full part of the game forever.?

This is not the impression I get though,but may be I am wrong.

Fundamentally ark cloaking prevents players from playing the game by players that are not playing the game, and are just logged in to hinder gameplay.
How is his a Goodall fun game design for all?




I believe the CCP position on the subject is that an AFK Cloaked pilot has never killed anyone. So therefore it's not a problem. I doubt your post will make any substantial difference to that.

If you'd like to see a post detailing how AFK cloaking threads generally trend you should check my signature out.

Edit: Also I forgot to mention, but the rules do state that it's forbidden to discuss moderation decisions. Just a heads up.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2014-06-19 00:48:42 UTC
Saisin wrote:
Rowells wrote:
These threads have been around since cloaking and local have. Years of discussion have hashed out pretty much every idea there is.

However, if you wish to submit a discussion revamping the ENTIRE intel line gathering system some people (including me) might be interested. However there will still be trolls and it is likely to be locked.

No I am,posting this because I liked the emp,like effect idea posted on a recent thread that just got locked before I had a chance to give it my +1
I understand the subject has been probably hashed to death all,ideas about ark cloaking , including this emp effect, have been already put out there..

What I do not understand is where we can discuss the fact that ark cloaking is bad for the game, independently of any proposed solutions.

Is there is a clear consensus amongst the community that in fact ark cloaking is ok, and as such not to be discussed anymore and must and will remain a full part of the game forever.?

This is not the impression I get though,but may be I am wrong.

Fundamentally ark cloaking prevents players from playing the game by players that are not playing the game, and are just logged in to hinder gameplay.
How is his a Goodall fun game design for all?

for a while we had a thread or two completely dedicated to its discussion and it was allowed to stay for quite some time, however it was basically just running in circles and too many people were breaking the rules in it so it was shut down and i geuss someone in charge decided that its better to just cut them off before it became a big problem again.

The idea itself has become honey for the flies so to speak, and ISD is tired of constantly trying to swat them away.
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#14 - 2014-06-19 00:54:35 UTC
An AFK cloaker never prevented anyone from playing the game. However, people do consistently choose to not play the game because of how they perceive the AFK cloaker.

People who hide from the bogeyman are their own worst enemy.

If something pops up and interrupts me while I'm playing Eve, I'll cloak up and park anywhere while I deal with the distraction. If I happen to take a peek and see the locals shipping up and hunting me, I'll give them a wink in local and move on because they are actively playing the game and I respect their time. If I pop in somewhere and everybody runs and hides even though any one of them could solo me, I'm going to stick around a while and let their shame sink bone-deep.

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Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#15 - 2014-06-19 00:55:15 UTC
Kaerakh wrote:

CCP wont remove cloaking because it would mess with waaay too many things and it creates content (which is a good thing) by removing content (which is a bad thing) but they can't really think of any way to do it without a complete overhaul of the local and scanning systems.
.

I like your sig Big smile

One question to ramp me up to snuff on this subject...
How does afk cloaking creates content, from CCP point of view?

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Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#16 - 2014-06-19 01:01:04 UTC
Saisin wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:

CCP wont remove cloaking because it would mess with waaay too many things and it creates content (which is a good thing) by removing content (which is a bad thing) but they can't really think of any way to do it without a complete overhaul of the local and scanning systems.
.

I like your sig Big smile

One question to ramp me up to snuff on this subject...
How does afk cloaking creates content, from CCP point of view?



I didn't write that. Roll
Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#17 - 2014-06-19 01:07:29 UTC
Kaerakh wrote:

I didn't write that. Roll

Oops, my bad... Still a good link to a good post.
But I can't find where CCP mentions afk cloaking creates game content....
I certainly am curious to see where this reasoning comes from, because it seems to be the key of why they would not change or pick any of the multiple ideas put forward...

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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#18 - 2014-06-19 01:16:18 UTC
Kaerakh wrote:

I believe the CCP position on the subject is that an AFK Cloaked pilot has never killed anyone. So therefore it's not a problem. I doubt your post will make any substantial difference to that.

If you'd like to see a post detailing how AFK cloaking threads generally trend you should check my signature out.

Edit: Also I forgot to mention, but the rules do state that it's forbidden to discuss moderation decisions. Just a heads up.


Cloak, cycle smartbombs as someone lands nearby in a flimsy ship, go afk? heh
Kaerakh
Obscure Joke Implied
#19 - 2014-06-19 01:28:26 UTC
Rroff wrote:
Kaerakh wrote:

I believe the CCP position on the subject is that an AFK Cloaked pilot has never killed anyone. So therefore it's not a problem. I doubt your post will make any substantial difference to that.

If you'd like to see a post detailing how AFK cloaking threads generally trend you should check my signature out.

Edit: Also I forgot to mention, but the rules do state that it's forbidden to discuss moderation decisions. Just a heads up.


Cloak, cycle smartbombs as someone lands nearby in a flimsy ship, go afk? heh


You're not afk when you killed him though. Blink
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#20 - 2014-06-19 01:30:15 UTC
That depends on how fast you jump out of your chair to save your burning hot pocket.

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