EVE General Discussion

We're going to see some big changes taking place in the backbone of eve's economic system.

Any guesses or predictions on what's going to happen?

People will flock back to Yulai...after they figure out where it is.

Does nobody think there might be greater compartmentalization/division between trade hubs?

Would players ship their manufactured goods to Dodixie 2 jumps away, rather than Jita?

I heard the Tritanium prices will rise. Though I would go for Mexallon.

In theory, this could have an effect on the hubs. Because if the cost is lower away from them, then it becomes the question of hauling your goods to the hubs to sell and maybe having less profit or selling where they are for more. But this is always been typical. You will also see an increase in production in jita on some goods.

it could mess with them, but like with stores and things, prolly not.

If people haven't figured out that Jita is bad and not to do Jita by now, they will just never learn.

There are several 'small' changes coming, each of which has the potential to alter the overall supply or consumption of minerals and ore in New Eden:

*) Mineral content of NPC loot (ratting and missions) will be reduced by at least 45% from its current level. This is part of the reprocessing change. Note that NPC loot provides all types of minerals, except Morphite. The last numbers I have seen from CCP suggests that currently reprocessed NPC loot supplies around 20% of the minerals to New Eden. If this is accurate, then the reprocessing changes may reduce overall mineral input to New Eden from this source by 10% or so.

*) Note that reprocessed NPC loot also supplies minerals, which are not found in the ore coming from regular HiSec asteroid belts. This means the ~ 10% reduction in overall high end mineral supply from NPC loot will hit the high ends especially hard.

*) Mining anomalies in HiSec remains unchanged and they are all currently being mined out pretty quickly. So this source of high ends remains the same.

*) Mining anomalies in LowSec will be significantly buffed, potentially leading to more profit from 'ninja mining' of high end ores (Arkonor down to Jaspet). This change has the potential to partially offset the reduction of the supply of high end minerals to empire manufacturers, depending on how popular (and profitable) this activity will become. We don't yet know the extent of these anomaly buffs, so this is a completely unknown factor right now.

*) Skill requirements for reprocessing raw ore changes, so many people will need to train a bit to get back to what is effectively 100% ore refining yield compared to current. This will in the short term reduced mineral input to the market by a small amount -or- increase consumption of raw ore in proportion. Expect the major nullsec consumers to already have trained the relevant skills, so this is another unknown factor. May be zero.

*) All cap manufacturers in Low- and NullSec will switch from using 425mm railguns (IE. modules) to compressed ore for their low end mineral imports from HiSec. This means that the 20% of *minerals* currently being supplied by reprocessed NPC loot will be mostly 'useless' for exporting from HiSec to the rest of New Eden. The minerals from reprocessed NPC loot will 'only' have value in the local market in HiSec.

*) Owners of player outposts in NullSec will get up to 20% more minerals from a given quantity of (compressed) ore, meaning they will get up to 120% yield instead of 100% they get today when reprocessing modules/railguns. This has the potential to noticeably reduce demand for low end ores, if the level of cap manufacture in Low- and Null remains the same.

*) Making compressed ore for direct export from HiSec is potentially much easier for reasonably sized mining operations, assuming they don't mind plopping down a POS every now and then. The profit from making railguns now potentially falls in the hands of the miners (or the buyers of raw uncompressed ore), possibly increasing profits in proportion as the railgun manufacturers are cut out of the loop. This potentially increased profit may increase the supply of low end ores with more people hitting the belts in HiSec.

So I at least expect some form of shake-up until the market stabilizes. I am probably also forgetting a detail or two here.

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Trade hubs will still be trade hubs. Changes in manufacturing side won't affect that.

Yulai is a lie!
















......would that make it the truth?