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Just got my first pvp kill in eve!

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#21 - 2014-06-07 17:11:20 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Ganking miners is not PvP.

It's like beating up little girls in the school yard.


Something I very much enjoyed in school

Your point?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

GordonO
BURN EDEN
#22 - 2014-06-17 23:50:59 UTC
Tomil Inkura wrote:
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Ganking miners is not PvP.

It's like beating up little girls in the school yard.


The way I see it, he has the ability to defend (scan, notice me and fly away) and I have have the ability to attack. Thus it's pvp, not my problem he didn't scan.


LMAO.. you tricked him in to thinking you were there to help.. why would he fly off ? but yea.. gankers also think they do pvp..

... What next ??

Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-06-18 00:03:45 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
It's like beating up little girls in the school yard.

Not this little girl.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-06-18 02:34:57 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Ganking miners is not PvP.

It's like beating up little girls in the school yard.


came expecting an "In Soviet Russia joke"

left dissapointed
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#25 - 2014-06-18 08:57:03 UTC
Tomil Inkura wrote:
Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:
You killed a miner? GZ! :P


Twice, he came back again. Took a bit more work to find him but I don't understand why he came back and made the same mistake twice.


Bet on stupid.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#26 - 2014-06-18 09:05:04 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Not this little girl.

You grew your hair back. Nice new look. Much more sinister.

It suits your forum persona. You look like a silent assassin.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#27 - 2014-06-18 09:19:15 UTC
Fleet invite works surprisingly often so you don't have to ask where they are, just wait for accept and warp straight to them. It might also serve as distraction for that 1 second you need to warp to his belt/anom you just d-scanned him at.

Also if 1 player loses pixels by actions of another player(s) it is pvp, no matter what space bushido aficionados say about it.

OP, keep it up!

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#28 - 2014-06-18 11:42:27 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Ganking miners is not PvP.

It's like beating up little girls in the school yard.


My school's yard didn't have little girls in full plate armor carrying a jar of hornets. Pirate
Auar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-06-18 13:24:40 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Ganking miners is not PvP.

It's like beating up little girls in the school yard.


Incorrect, PvP means Player versus Player, not fair and honorable combat.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#30 - 2014-06-18 13:27:29 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Ganking miners is not PvP.

It's like beating up little girls in the school yard.

More like clubing defensless baby seals.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-06-18 13:58:54 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
Not this little girl.

You grew your hair back. Nice new look. Much more sinister.

It suits your forum persona. You look like a silent assassin.

Thanks for noticing! But the only things in New Eden this pilot is in danger of assassinating are space rocks and wrecks. Blink

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Dominus Tempus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-06-18 14:03:22 UTC
A player attacked and killed another player.

Regardless of honor, dignity, or presence of schoolgirls in said asteroid belts, it was PvP.
Marzom Dread
Doomheim
#33 - 2014-06-18 14:43:47 UTC
Grats on your first kill. Clever method as well. Nice work! Pirate
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#34 - 2014-06-18 15:04:11 UTC
OP - you didn't do PvP. You committed pixel ****. Congratulations on feeling good about that.
Tomil Inkura
Xakeda Corporation
#35 - 2014-06-18 19:55:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tomil Inkura
A lot of mixed responses here. You get this conversation in every pvp game. In SC2, for example, people consider rushing and fast attacks to be "immoral". Personally I don't think there is a moral high ground in eve (or any competitive game). We never have any control over how people will respond to our actions when engaging in pvp. Why then should I concern myself with it? Why should I care how upset someone will be if I blow up their precious little spaceship they spent years working towards. If they cannot process loss in a healthy way that is their problem, not mine. I play eve to fight other players and the second you undock (even in highsec) you are consenting to any and all forms of legal (ie. actions that don't get you banned) competitive pvp.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#36 - 2014-06-18 21:09:25 UTC  |  Edited by: KIller Wabbit
Wow - sure have all the arguments all down for a "new" player.

Unless the mining ship was actually configured for PvP engagement, it was pixel ****. I guess some would call it a gank, but you insist you were in battle so I don't believe that applies.

I'm not arguing against your idea of fun. Just laughing at your chest beating.
Tomil Inkura
Xakeda Corporation
#37 - 2014-06-18 21:29:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tomil Inkura
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Wow - sure have all the arguments all down for a "new" player.

Unless the mining ship was actually configured for PvP engagement, it was pixel ****. I guess some would call it a gank, but you insist you were in battle so I don't believe that applies.

I'm not arguing against your idea of fun. Just laughing at your chest beating.


I come from the starcraft 2 community where there are similar viewpoints regarding the morality of strategies considered "cheesy". Things like 10 pool baneling or 7 Roach Rush and blink all-ins are widely considered to be immoral and bad mannered. The higher you get on the ladder the less people care if a strategy is legitimate or not. I was stuck in gold league for a really long time. Then one day I stopped getting upset and angry at people "cheesing" me and I got two promotions within a month.

I'm not chest beating, I just sick of hearing the same discussions over and over again no matter what game I go to. In starcraft its cheesy strategies that people think are evil, here its obviously (judging by the responses) that attacking miners is evil. It's the same discussion between those who prefer pve and those who like pvp.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#38 - 2014-06-18 22:12:03 UTC
"Just got my first pvp kill in eve!" Reads like excited chest beating utterance to me, but maybe I'm just misreading 8 words.
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#39 - 2014-06-18 22:13:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Baron' Soontir Fel
Tomil Inkura wrote:

I'm not chest beating...


You created a thread about your first PvP kill in eve...



and it was a miner...



and it was because you tricked him into thinking you were friendly.



When you kill something that shoots back at you (by yourself preferably), come back and post again. Then you'll see why you look like a bully and it doesn't look like real PvP.




It's literally akin to being a Platinum player, going hey, that bronze player wants to "PvP". So you go to him, tell him I can help you get better, then just smash his face in with a 10min push.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2014-06-18 22:24:09 UTC
^^ OP said player vs player. Not Platinum player vs. Bronze player or some other e-honor qualification you want to put on it.

And harmless chest beating is what this game is all about. Let OP enjoy it. Did you see he paid the guy back?

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

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