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FW suspect timer for everyone who enter a plex!

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Sowek Kazakov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-06-17 21:28:41 UTC
I'm tired of it.

There is bunch of pirates, that keep their Security Status over -5. Thanks to that they can't be atacked on gates, but can roam in low-sec, and find targets in plexes. It's cool. I love fighting them. I do it often and even more often i win. Because of me not running away from them I'm losing security status. While being in plex. Defending my beloved militia.

So this is some missunderstanding on concept of low-sec roamers. CCP, please make everyone who enter a plex having a suspect timer. Neutrals who enter a plex, don't go there for nothing. In 99% they go for a kill. 1% is for a noobs that don't know what plexes are.

Sowek.
Anslo
Scope Works
#2 - 2014-06-17 21:30:08 UTC
Said it once, I'll say it again; implement this idea.

We're still coming in.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-06-17 21:30:14 UTC
don't shoot first?
Sowek Kazakov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-06-17 21:33:52 UTC
don't shoot first? Are you kidding? Most of the fights in plex are about who catch who first. If he's MWD and im AB, i need to scram him first. Otherwise, I'm dead.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#5 - 2014-06-17 21:37:25 UTC
Sowek Kazakov wrote:
don't shoot first? Are you kidding? Most of the fights in plex are about who catch who first. If he's MWD and im AB, i need to scram him first. Otherwise, I'm dead.


Well, in real PvP, if he's MWD and you're AB, you're already dead.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-06-17 21:37:42 UTC
Get to -10.0 ASAP and be all smug about it like the rest of us?

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Sowek Kazakov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-06-17 21:39:33 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
*Snip* Removed reply to a deleted post. ISD Ezwal.

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Well, in real PvP, if he's MWD and you're AB, you're already dead.


Not. My 1v1 stats prove it. That's why I have advantage of being in plex. If he wants to come, he needs to risk that I can scram it. If i do scram him, I'm losing Security Status.
Ciara McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#8 - 2014-06-17 21:42:14 UTC
Sowek Kazakov wrote:
I'm tired of it.

There is bunch of pirates, that keep their Security Status over -5. Thanks to that they can't be atacked on gates, but can roam in low-sec, and find targets in plexes. It's cool. I love fighting them. I do it often and even more often i win. Because of me not running away from them I'm losing security status. While being in plex. Defending my beloved militia.

So this is some missunderstanding on concept of low-sec roamers. CCP, please make everyone who enter a plex having a suspect timer. Neutrals who enter a plex, don't go there for nothing. In 99% they go for a kill. 1% is for a noobs that don't know what plexes are.

Sowek.


You should be watching your back, if any ship appears on grid or within D-scan range then you are in danger, so how is a suspect timer going to make it easier to see something you should be on the lookout for anyway?

Oh wait, I get it now, you are not watching grid or D-Scan!

In that case send me your location and I will come "help" you to stay safe while you are not being careful in a dangerous place.

Oh...oh...almost...so close...nope false alarm, my cup  of care is still empty.

Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#9 - 2014-06-17 21:44:29 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Sowek Kazakov wrote:

Not. My 1v1 stats prove it. That's why I have advantage of being in plex. If he wants to come, he needs to risk that I can scram it. If i do scram him, I'm losing Security Status.



It isn't real PvP when you know exactly where he's going to be. Uncertainty is the difference between gate / station / plex camping and actually hunting.

And in order to kill a MWD frig pilot in an AB frig, your opponent pretty much has to be either stupid or cocky. You can only juke an orbit so far.


Fixed quoting. ISD Ezwal.
Sowek Kazakov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-06-17 21:45:29 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Quote:
You should be watching your back, if any ship appears on grid or within D-scan range then you are in danger, so how is a suspect timer going to make it easier to see something you should be on the lookout for anyway?

Oh wait, I get it now, you are not watching grid or D-Scan!

In that case send me your location and I will come "help" you to stay safe while you are not being careful in a dangerous place.


*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

I do watch d-scan. I do know who's in my local. I know who am I fighting, and It have no connection to this topic. I'm talking about losing a security status, when I actually fight back pirates, who jump to my plex, and want to kill me. I kill them, therefore I lose standings.*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2014-06-17 21:47:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
*Snip* Please refrain from using profanity. ISD Ezwal.even more is your Idea, I do not care about your sec status.
Killing ships in low sec does not cost a lot of sec status...go kill 2 or 3 rats and you are good.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#12 - 2014-06-17 21:49:54 UTC
Sowek Kazakov wrote:
who jump to my plex, and want to kill me.
It's not your plex, it never was.

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Sowek Kazakov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-06-17 21:50:30 UTC
I'm not talking about killing one ship. I kill 10 pirates a day at least. While they jump to fight me. Losing 0.5 security status a day It's not cool.

If you guys don't really care about this change, why not implement it. It helpes a lot of people, not making difference for pirates, and not making difference for most of you, who avoid low-sec anyway.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-06-17 22:01:40 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Sowek Kazakov wrote:
I do it often and even more often i win.


You can tell this is *Snip* Please refrain from using profanity. ISD Ezwal. because:

A) *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
B) It's impossible to win more often than you fight

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Sowek Kazakov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-06-17 22:04:09 UTC
Losing security status makes me be almost unable to fly to high-sec. Biggest market for FW is at Ichorya, which is high sec. I'm pretty annoyed by station-camps there.
Subsparx
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#16 - 2014-06-17 22:08:06 UTC
I'd have to heavily disagree with this. It's a slippery slope to people going suspect for locking or going to orbital strike areas and ihubs. If you don't want to fight pirates and lose sec status, align out when something shows up on the gate and leave when they come in. Otherwise, shoot first ask questions later and take the sec hit, or pay for tags like the pirates do. We're in FW, running around in high-sec isn't even that important, in fact I'd say you benefit from living in low-sec and avoiding high. I haven't gone to high-sec in over a couple months with this character. Tags are cheap compared to the LP we earn.

You shouldn't ever go suspect simply for going somewhere, the beacons are advertised on the overview and anyone should be able to go to them. By this same logic you should go suspect for entering an occupied mission plex, or a DED site. You shouldn't go suspect until you shoot at somebody you aren't at war with period in my opinion.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-06-17 22:12:03 UTC
Sowek Kazakov wrote:
Losing security status makes me be almost unable to fly to high-sec. Biggest market for FW is at Ichorya, which is high sec. I'm pretty annoyed by station-camps there.
Then allow me to offer you a Better Solution, that would also allow you to shoot at cool lowsec bros in highsec!

Alternatively, buy in Nenna! Prices are good, I know. :)

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Tibo Paralian
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#18 - 2014-06-17 22:22:04 UTC
Reminds me of that episode in South Park and their hybrid cars. Be honest, if you slide the gate it's not to say "Hello!" to the npc.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#19 - 2014-06-17 22:27:39 UTC
Sowek Kazakov wrote:
I'm tired of it.

There is bunch of pirates, that keep their Security Status over -5.

Sowek.


Then they are not pirates.
Ciara McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#20 - 2014-06-17 22:29:32 UTC
If you choose to stay and fight, how is an auto suspect timer going to stop that? Posting here saying you are losing status when you made the choice to open fire rather than warp out... only you can make a choice to change the outcome.

If it's true that you can win that many fights a day.

Oh...oh...almost...so close...nope false alarm, my cup  of care is still empty.

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