EVE General Discussion

So I've done career agent missions, worked my way up to level 3 security missions, done distribution missions, improved my standings with Caldari State....

Let me ask you guys a question first off...what the heck is the point of doing a courier mission when millions are required in collateral and they only pay a couple hundred thousand? Why should I even waste my time with these lol. I ask this cause I figure I would try these types of objectives to see if it is interesting and nope...just boring.

The corp I am in got wardec'd by some guy looking for easy kills and that just meant we had to play possum cause none of us had a chance to take the dude out. Is pvp really so scarce that people literally have to wardec or pvp roam just to find some action?

I've been with players who can do security level 4 and make tons of isk off of these and yet I see no real point to these tedious and boring type of gameplay. I've tried to get into the pvp side a little bit but as a new player I get destroyed...

I don't know...I was hoping this game had more depth, but all it seems to have is timers attached to skills that take weeks/months/years to train for just so you can hopefully have some fun in this game.

I read that some chick online decided to become a pirate and managed to go out and see several big battles...yeah I haven't seen anything at all like that lol. Every single way I look in this game something is going to take me a ton of time to do, or perhaps I just lack imagination. But bounty hunting is pointless as you only get 20% of the worth of the ship and yeah that stinks... Living in WH space isn't possible as I have no idea how to survive sleepers or the onslaught of those who make billions hunting others down.

Perhaps I just want pve content that guides me and I am too used to that... But where is the action in this game?

So, getting a wardec automatically means you don't undock? Who told you that, your corp? Have you even tried to fight any of the deccers? Sounds to me like you're just in a shi**y corp. Find better people to learn from.

People wardec carebear corps like yours for easy kills and the ransom money.

but you just need to change what you are doing, and learn what else.. You could move to NPC null and play cat and mouse while you run missions or sites, you could join a WH group and learn what doing sleeper sites is all about

The action in the game is all pvp based tbh.. from the market to sov its all about gaining the advantage over others.
You just need to step out of your comfort zone and try something new

We were told to dock up if you see them in the system. Don't try to give them easy kills as that will just make them keep the war going even more, so if we deny them kills they get bored and go away. The corp is filled with new and older players basically, but mostly new when we were wardec'd. We lost a few ships trying to fight the guy mostly 1 vs 1 and he owned us everytime and we never got 1 kill on him.

There is no honor in eve. Why would you try to fight him 1v1? Gang up on him and kill him. That will make him go away faster than hiding in the station.

I think I read that doing missions in nullsec gives you more Isk and LP, but the Null I am next to is owned by the Goons, so no hope in hell for me there lol. In fact, I have to be able to enter nullsec somewhere that isn't bubbled to hell and back and get past their sovereign space apparently. So I guess I am saying I am confused about how to go about this other then me spending hours traveling around the universe looking for possible entry points and then every time I die from Null camps having to travel all the way back to where I left off. Sorry I am not the sharpest tool in the shed lol.

Good PvP in EVE can indeed be quite scarce, which is what makes it so exciting when you do find it.

Also, 1v1 is often a bad idea because 1v1 often means 1 v (1 + HG Snakes + Links + Cloaked Falcon just-in-case).

As a post above me states, there really isn't any honor when it comes to winning in EVE (for better or worse). The sooner you accept this and start looking for ways to just win rather than win honorably, the better off you'll be.

Keep this in mind: the deccers aren't trying to provoke a fight, they're looking for easy ganks that, unless they're completely incompetent, never put them in a position to risk anything, because theyt war dec targets that are highly unlikely to put up any kind of fight. "Easy kill" in the minds of the deccers more often than not means "find their ratting/mining/hauling ships and gank them in a situation that is impossible to lose control of."

So don't give them those easy kills! You got war decced? Great, that doesn't mean you can't go outside any more. Stop ratting, stop mining, stop hauling, and get some friends together and go do something about the deccers. Fit up some proper PVP ships (research good ships/fits if you need to), and go hunt them down. Hint: deccers often use alts that are not involved in the war dec to spot targets without being spotted themselves. Try baiting them out to judge their strength, do what you can to learn who their alts are (scour their kill mails for out of corp characters, these are most likely alts). You might surprise yourselves, and in the process find that elusive fun you were looking for.

Oh yeah, guess what? There's a good chance you're still going to die to the deccers (in fact, it's highly likely). But doesn't planning a defense/retaliation and doing everything you can to execute that plan successfully seem like a lot more fun than sitting in station doing nothing, even if you lose? Trying is where the fun is at in this game, not necessarily in the win or gain. As soon as you realize that, you will no longer struggle to have fun.

One last thing: if you actually follow my advice and try to get your corp mates out into the world and involved, and they refuse and still think the better option is to "turtle up," then you know without any doubt your corp is the problem. Food for thought.

^^THIS! A thousand times this. He's not looking for an honorable fight, so don't give it to him. Come at him with as many friends as you can get and make him f*ck off or die :D

See? He's bored. He's already done it all. How many posts like this have we fielded so far this year,
and we're only halfway through it.

Looks like the barn is being repainted - oink oink.