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No problem with these stacking benefits. Maybe have a more logarithmic scaling factor instead of linear, but otherwise it's good.

I don't think anyone is going to go crazy onlining/offlining stuff at a whim just to save a few ISK. The difference will be whether people will scale down to small towers or keep running large ones. ISK for fuel vs. ISK in saving install costs kind of a deal.

This makes a bit more sense. Treat it like a Command Center that has upgrade levels. Anchoring 13 of these things seems a bit silly.

It is also comical that a POS can't build its own POS modules.

I can't say if this is good or not, but its... just odd.

It forces people to mass produce these things for the sole purpose of anchoring them... its.. Wonky.

so for a comp assembly array to get max discount you need to anchour 50 of them??

i must be missing something cos that can not be right?

As i see it there is always a cost for hiring a team, even a standard one without bonuses and it depends on how much is produced in the system. this is also where the 26% reduction is deducted from. if you produce from a station there is an additional tax. If you produce from a pos there is no tax but a pos discount.

Thank the real architects of this, the null sec cartel CSM reps.
They have created a monstrosity that is now some complicated, so nuanced, that only the ones that are deeply involved, deeply committed, will profit. To suggest this new system is simpler than the current system is just Orwell-speak.

This is the death of the high sec casual industrialist, as designed.
Oh, and those same high sec casuals all have alt corps ready to go when the inevitable war dec grief appears.

Just brilliant design.

Thanks everyone. Now to figure out if all them Slaves I freed during the years want to return the favor...

/c

I think many are forgetting where eve is heading storyline wise.

I've ready many posts about the faction standings no longer being taken into account being "game breaking" or "taking away from the immersion"

Remember capsuleers have defied the empire factions and are starting to do their own thing. This is another step in that direction in which the empire rules no longer matter.

Not necessarily agreeing with the stacking bonuses and mass components needed. I think the POS UI changes should've come first then have the ability similar to Outposts and install upgrades instead of having a ton of items floating around in space. Or having the POS work like ship fitting works to allow easier configuration and management of the POS. I can see steps going towards that direction just wonder of this 'enhancement' / change was a little cart before the horse.

Being a past industrialist I can agree with some of the insight and concerns brought up in regards to high sec industrialists. You have a good portion of your play base that just wants to run missions and or build something from the ground up. This puts more emphasis in high sec wars for the chances to get shiny BPO drops from POS bashing rather than fixing 0.0 sov mechanics and getting the fights out in lawless space. Empire space, even with the story line / developmental change should still be relatively safe for those that choose to play this game on a casual level.

Should be interesting to see how this plays out post-crius.

there are plenty of things out there with high margins and low overall profit, often more than 30%. Those will remain profitable in highsec :)

the more advanced stuff and the more expensive stuff will move out to null. good changes :)

I would hope the objective isn't to get the casual player base to purchase a bunch of alt accounts. The true player base of EVE is currently convoluted with all the alts running around. I hope CCP is considering the balance of these and future changes to not force the casual player into the more complex / complicated dynamics that come with this game. It will alienate a certain segment of the player base and this is not good for the game and definitely not good for business.

Previously, we would queue jobs in manufacturing/research slots when we ran out of empty slots, or because we were only allowed to use certain slots, or just out of consideration for the next guy.

Now, there will be a cost for installing jobs which presumably increases as the number of parallel/simultaneous jobs increase.

Will it be possible to run, say, 5 simultaneous job queues of two 12-hour jobs per queue instead of 10 simultaneous jobs at 12 hours each? This means 5 jobs would complete in 12 hours and the other 5 jobs would complete in 24 hours instead of the 10 simultaneous jobs that all complete in 12 hours for (theoretically) twice the cost? It can be important for many of us to time the completion of jobs to correspond with our gaming times.


In Hisec, Lowsec, and NPC Null, the "taxes" you pay theoretically get sent to the resident governing body. To whom are these "taxes" being paid in Sov Null and especially in Wormhole space? Neither Concord, nor SCC, nor any empire body has any standing or presence in Sov Null or wormhole space; the residents see to that.

Will industry in Sov Null POSes/Outposts and in W-space POSes also require some form of ISK payment to some ethereal empire presence to start jobs?