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Reimburse MePlease
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-06-16 07:02:56 UTC
Hello everyone.

Today I got slightly depressed. I actually contemplated the fact that EVE someday will die. It's inevitable.
This made me think about all the great people out there playing this game. 'An international road trip" is what pops to mind, safe the women perhaps. More ladies in this game would be nice.

Anyways, I was thinking about the future and the possibility of a 'better, bigger and faster' Eve Online. A sequel where the devs have an golden opportunity to get all the things right from the beginning. Something that is possible today, only because we have 10+ years of experience with the game.

We pretty much know its flaws and its strengths.

What I want the most is having all you great people move as a community to an EVE ONLINE 2. That would be great :)

So here are my stupid questions:

1. Would you want to see EVE ONLINE 2 developed?

2. Would you pay for EVE ONLINE 2?

3. How much would you be willing to give in support at sites like kickstarter? (in USD)

4. Supers/**** in EVE II at release, added later or never introduced?

5. When in terms of game play mechanics, how much of development ideas/inspiration should come directly from community.

6. Should multiple account ownership be as easy and non-problematic as it is today? (This one is a big YES for me :P)

7. EVE II still just ONE HUGE cluster / single shard universe or instances / different servers?

8. Will your corp/alliance migrate to an eventual EVE II universe, or will you scatter and start all over?

9. Will you carry your char name/history to EVE II or start a new anonymous character?

10. Will you pay 1 million dollars to see this game made?


I hope there's always going to be an EVE out there :]

Please start a kickstarter for EVE II :]
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#2 - 2014-06-16 07:10:41 UTC
If CCP really wanted to make EVE 2 they should just take down the current EVE for a year and fix all the broken stuff.

POS revamps will take most of that time

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#3 - 2014-06-16 07:19:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Aquila Sagitta
news flash they'll work on it for the next year while its still up. How is taking the cluster down gonna free up programmers to fix more stuff?

@OP You should put in there 'How much time would you wait for Eve 2 to be developed' And remember that Eve 1 has been in development for over 10 years...

Blue-Fire Best Fire
Reimburse MePlease
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-06-16 07:19:35 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
If CCP really wanted to make EVE 2 they should just take down the current EVE for a year and fix all the broken stuff.

POS revamps will take most of that time


I'd say the multithread issue will be the biggest problem if you wish to stick to current EVE. I think they said it cannot be changed. Too many lines of code or something.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-06-16 07:23:10 UTC


1. No, no one has won EVE Online I yet.

2. No.

3. Nothing.

4. Refer to 1 and 2

5-10. *sigh* IF there were to be a new game, an "EVE II" as has been suggested before and dismissed as nonsensical, it would have to remain true to the flavour of EVE I to be of ANY interest to me.

Yes, EVE will die. All games do. But you are talking like EVE is dying right now, or even like it's already dead. "Please start a kickstarter for EVE II" Why? You haven't established a premise that highlights the death of EVE I yet, you've just asserted that it will die and that it depresses you. That's what this thread really is though, an "EVE is dying" thread, and only a thinly stealthed one. It's not, and any speculation as to its very distant future is just that, speculation, and not worth discussing in light of actual current non-speculatory issues. This thread is also redundant, as it is nothing that hasn't been suggested before, as stated above.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-06-16 07:29:49 UTC

  1. No. I want EVE-online continue to be developed. If there is a problem you have in EVE, you're going to have the same thing in EVE 2 with maybe a slight delay. People who want an EVE 2 seem to assume all their pet peeves won't exist in the new game for some reason. If CCP wanted to or could avoid or fix them, they can do it in EVE. So either it can't be done yet or they don't want to do it. Point being you're facing the same issues or new ones in EVE 2. Are you then going to demand EVE 3 as a solution or accept, that maybe it's better to keep developing the game you already have?

  2. Not sure, since I would have lost my faith in the ability of CCP to develop and maintain their game. If all progress would translate to the new game, yes, but at that point there is no point in making an EVE 2.

  3. Zero dollars. I'm paying them a sub to keep developing the game already. If they want to swindle more money from others, they're welcome to try, but I won't contribute.

  4. Why not? More ships are always welcome as long as they are balanced.

  5. You use good, workable ideas no matter the source. Community ideas aren't any better by default. In fact they're mostly trash, because so few consider their ideas from the perspective and wellbeing of the entire game or have any realistic concept of what limits are involved in the actual development.

  6. Yes. Trying to police that would be a waste of development resources and counter productive for CCP income generation.

  7. If it isn't a single cluster, it isn't EVE.

  8. Likely split up to different games.

  9. If I have to restart anything for any reason, I'm very unlikely to continue playing.

    10. 10. No. The idea is bad, unnecessary and detrimental to the EVE-community as a whole.
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#7 - 2014-06-16 07:34:38 UTC
Really doubt Eve 2 will ever be a possibility. They have made it pretty clear just through past actions and things that have been said that they prefer to keep building onto the current Eve. Like with the Trinity graphics update, and the ones after it etc etc.

Also, that would be a really risky move on part of CCP. And with current events, I have a feeling they are risk adverse. :P
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#8 - 2014-06-16 08:07:55 UTC
1.) We're already past EVE 2
2.) I am playing
3.) Nothing. I pay subscription.
4.) I am sure they were introduced after EVE 2, at EVE 3 or 4 or something
5.) As much or as little as is deemed reasonable by the devs charged with creating a coherent game and playing experience
6.) Allowing multi accounts is not as detrimental as people claim, especially from a subscription income point of view.
7.) EVE is one cluster. Shards and instances would destroy the essence of the design concept.
8.) We get migrated automatically every time EVE advances to another version.
9.) I have a few anonymous alts already.
10.) 1 million dollars won't even pay for the taxes.

EVE already exists. No reason to waste resources on a second version when you could just invest those resources on the existing game and improve it above and beyond what it currently is. I rather stand on the shoulders of giants instead of crawling through the dirt, planting beanstalks and hope I'll get a really big one one day that may or may not reach that castle in the sky I'm dreaming about.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2014-06-16 08:49:35 UTC
Well, when eve dies for you, can I have your stuff?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2014-06-16 08:50:51 UTC
No.


Also, I'm playing EVE XX. I'm not sure how you'd even manage to log in with something as old as EVE II.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#11 - 2014-06-16 08:54:11 UTC
I get depressed knowing that death is an inevitability and all we hold dear is completely pointless and will be destroyed

This makes me angry

And I intend to avoid dying if at all possible because I refuse to accept it as necessary.

Games, meh they dont bother me so much.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Marsha Mallow
#12 - 2014-06-16 10:29:32 UTC
1. No
2. No
3. Nothing
4. Never
5. None. The community are deranged. Maybe let them design their own clothes or something.
6. 1 account, infinite character slots & the ability to log in all of them. At the same time.
7. One server
8. If forced to move, I'd imagine most would, to terrorise the new 'community'. If it was choice, no.
9. Probably carry over then continue griping about name changes. Or impersonate someone else.
10. I can think of more entertaining things to do with 1 million, even if it is only dollars.

Reimburse MePlease wrote:
'An international road trip" is what pops to mind, safe the women perhaps. More ladies in this game would be nice.

I have no idea what you are trying to say here but if you'd like to 'save' the female Eve players just send us your stuff. Preferably before the game dies. Don't expect any thanks though.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#13 - 2014-06-16 11:04:01 UTC
Sequels are rarely as good as the original.

I love eve, even the warty bits that I have been told I have to refer to instead as "Players"

EVE is massive, massive code, massive hardware, massive amounts of money, massive warty, I mean player loyalty. Its been around for over a decade and still going strong. Why mess with that?

Fix it, don't replace it.

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#14 - 2014-06-16 11:20:59 UTC
Oh look, it's this thread again, again.

To answer all your questions (more or less), I'd want Eve II to be just like Eve is now, just with maybe a little more Pssshhh.

There's no reason to start all over. One of the best features Eve has going for it is the long history and well-developed player market. Starting over would kill that for no good reason.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#15 - 2014-06-16 11:25:08 UTC
I can answer that fairly easily.

If EVE dies, I will go play The Repopulation. Similarly sci fi, sandbox gameplay. Kickstarted it a while back.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#16 - 2014-06-16 11:35:46 UTC
War Kitten wrote:

To answer all your questions (more or less), I'd want Eve II to be just like Eve is now, just with maybe a little more Pssshhh.


Hahaha... more Pssshhh... Have an Internet Spaceship Forum 'LIKE'

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-06-16 11:44:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Sibyyl
If EVE ended I'd probably just go back to playing chess with random people on yahoo. I played recently again and lost and I blame EVE for making me rusty!

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#18 - 2014-06-16 12:02:21 UTC
EVE isn't some animal with biological limits, it can and will go on as long as someone wants to publish it and someone else wants to pay for it.

Personally, I don't worry about it. If there is ever an "EVE II" that means "EVE Classic" (lol) died. Either EVE II would try to recreate all the things that made EVE-C died (which means it would ineveitably die as well) OR EVE II would go in an "entirely new direction" (aka cookie cutter thempark game) to attract more people, at which point i'd stop being interested in it at all.

Speculation about the future of EVE (which has been going on since 2003 lol) imo is a distraction. Just like in real life you have people sprinting on treadmills trying to stave off death and preachers trying to predict the end of the world, so too do gamers try to figure out when they will actually have to find something else to do (or, go outside *shivers*) because a video game ended it's run.

Me? I'm not worried about any of that.

Not only am I not on a treadmill, I'm eating a bacon and egg sandwhich right now, dreaming about my bacon cheesburger Im gonna get for lunch (I have a desk job now and the resturant down the street delivers, so no pesky walking needed to get my lunch, screw buring calories, I NEED all my calories because they are mine) and thinking about coming back home, playing EVE, and not worrying about when it's gonna die.
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-06-16 13:46:13 UTC
1. Would you want to see EVE ONLINE 2 developed?

Houm... no. I dislike franchises. Only EVE is EVE, and that's enough.

Now, if CCP tried to develop some other game, I would give it a try, as long as it was not like EVE. FAI, I was totally willing to give a chance to World of Darkness.

That doesn't extends to DUST, Valkyrie or Legion, though, as a matter of game genres.

Q: Should we be worried? A: Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.