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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-06-15 19:48:45 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
They probably round it off somewhere, whether it's a few cents up or down isn't really an issue. At the end of the day you're still blaming CCP for something that they have no control over.

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Arkumord Churhee
Nice Try.
#22 - 2014-06-15 20:22:23 UTC
voetius wrote:

If only someone had asked this same question two weeks ago and a dev had replied with an explanation to supplement and confirm what you have already been told by several posters.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4640844#post4640844


Just checked back. The post you linked to said that a 6 PLEX package cost 89.99€ at the time. Now it's 104,99€. That's a whole 15€ difference with no reason whatsoever. And that is basically what I'm upset about.
Arkumord Churhee
Nice Try.
#23 - 2014-06-15 20:46:04 UTC
Let's do some math here, shall we?

A 6 PLEX package costs 104,99 USD, before taxes. So let's pretend Germany's currency was also USD and apply Germany's 19% VAT to that, we get 124,94 USD (or 92,28 EUR).
Now, on the other hand, a 6 PLEX package paid in € is also 104,99, which amounts to about 142,15 USD.
And that ~14% markup of 17,21 USD is what I'm unhappy about. You could almost buy another PLEX with that!

Hope you all now get it.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#24 - 2014-06-15 21:09:06 UTC
Arkumord Churhee wrote:
Let's do some math here, shall we?

A 6 PLEX package costs 104,99 USD, before taxes. So let's pretend Germany's currency was also USD and apply Germany's 19% VAT to that, we get 124,94 USD (or 92,28 EUR).
Now, on the other hand, a 6 PLEX package paid in € is also 104,99, which amounts to about 142,15 USD.
And that ~14% markup of 17,21 USD is what I'm unhappy about. You could almost buy another PLEX with that!

Hope you all now get it.
We get it, we just don't care.

Regional price differences have been around for years and are rarely related to any currency exchange rates, deal with it.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-06-15 22:24:30 UTC
I always buy my PLEX duty free at Abu Dahbi waiting for my connecting flight :D
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-06-15 22:53:33 UTC
Arkumord Churhee wrote:
Let's do some math here, shall we?

A 6 PLEX package costs 104,99 USD, before taxes. So let's pretend Germany's currency was also USD and apply Germany's 19% VAT to that, we get 124,94 USD (or 92,28 EUR).
Now, on the other hand, a 6 PLEX package paid in € is also 104,99, which amounts to about 142,15 USD.
And that ~14% markup of 17,21 USD is what I'm unhappy about. You could almost buy another PLEX with that!

Hope you all now get it.

I agree, that's kind of messed up.

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ISD Alliance
#27 - 2014-06-15 23:41:59 UTC
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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#28 - 2014-06-16 03:01:48 UTC
Sigh....

op: you do realize how resale works right? No? well then.

CCP sets a standard price for the plex. They sell the plex to resellers at this set price. The resells then add more to it to get profit. They then add V.A.T in euro to the price, which is why you see the difference.

I live in the US, i pay ~8% sales tax in California. Thats it. I would still be buying a plex for less ten you all do in Europe.

If you want to whine about RESALE prices, write the reseller, not CCP.

Pretty much end of discussion.

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GOB the Magician
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2014-06-16 03:15:25 UTC  |  Edited by: GOB the Magician
Arkumord Churhee wrote:
Dear CCP,

what have european customers of yours done to you? If, say, you were to buy a 2 PLEX Code online, customers paying in EUR are charged 34,99 EUR. US customers are charged 34,99 USD.

Quick googling of the conversion tells me that 34,99 USD converts to 25,84 EUR at the time of writing. That's almost 10 EUR less! My question here is: Why? Why do european customers pay that much more for the same service that US customers get?

Doesn't sound quite fair to me... please explain!

(Crosspost from german subforum)


Freedom has its benefits. Do they not teach you basic math in Germany?

Also lol @ the admitted cross-post being allowed kept open. Cherry picking rules FTW.
Claud Tiberius
#30 - 2014-06-16 03:40:12 UTC
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if game time is priced differently between nations?

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Claud Tiberius
#31 - 2014-06-16 03:44:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Claud Tiberius
DaReaper wrote:
Sigh....

op: you do realize how resale works right? No? well then.

CCP sets a standard price for the plex. They sell the plex to resellers at this set price. The resells then add more to it to get profit. They then add V.A.T in euro to the price, which is why you see the difference.

I live in the US, i pay ~8% sales tax in California. Thats it. I would still be buying a plex for less ten you all do in Europe.

If you want to whine about RESALE prices, write the reseller, not CCP.

Pretty much end of discussion.

Think you are confused? Isn't the OP talking about the Plex prices directly from the CCP website? https://secure.eveonline.com/PLEX/

Thus not from other retailers meaning, there is no VAT.



fyi its also $34.99 here in Aus... So to put that into comparison: $34.94 US = $37.17 AUD. Its not as bad as in Europe, but since I am buying a digital product why the hell should it be different? It should be the same rate for every nation.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#32 - 2014-06-16 03:50:07 UTC
Claud Tiberius wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
Sigh....

op: you do realize how resale works right? No? well then.

CCP sets a standard price for the plex. They sell the plex to resellers at this set price. The resells then add more to it to get profit. They then add V.A.T in euro to the price, which is why you see the difference.

I live in the US, i pay ~8% sales tax in California. Thats it. I would still be buying a plex for less ten you all do in Europe.

If you want to whine about RESALE prices, write the reseller, not CCP.

Pretty much end of discussion.

Think you are confused? Isn't the OP talking about the Plex prices directly from the CCP website? https://secure.eveonline.com/PLEX/

Thus not from other retailers meaning, there is no VAT.



fyi its also $34.99 here in Aus...


ah maybe i am

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Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-06-16 04:45:01 UTC
That's the price you pay for having a stronger currency. Literally.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2014-06-16 04:51:48 UTC
Of course the standard price for a sub per month is $14.95 .
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-06-16 05:06:00 UTC
Europeans can afford it, with their free health care, free education, great welfare programs and higher pay.
Lady Areola Fappington
#36 - 2014-06-16 05:29:18 UTC
I can't help but be a little bit proud that the US Dollar is still the "default" currency that others compare their currency to. Rock on.


Still, win some, lose some when it comes to international purchases. I know I "lost" a few bills myself while stationed in Germany. Paid in USD, shopping on the economy in Euros was an expensive endeavour.

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Victor Andall
#37 - 2014-06-16 05:29:40 UTC
Oh, hi there plex price discrepancy thread! I haven't seen you in quite some time! How have you been? I see your wife grr goons thread around here all the time. Is afk cloaking thread still around? Oh, he has kids now? Well, it's been nice chatting.

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TharOkha
0asis Group
#38 - 2014-06-16 05:55:18 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Arkumord Churhee wrote:
Your
Karen Avioras wrote:
taxes and stuff

are also applied in the US.
I don't see any reason why european customers should pay 9,15 EUR (or 12,39 USD) more on a 2 PLEX code. So I'm kindly asking CCP to explain this to me or just lower the price.

US codes have always been a bit cheaper (a dollar or two on a 2 PLEX code thanks to good conversion rates), but this is just not acceptable any more.


By law, applicable taxes must be included in the advertised price in Europe. This is not the case in America.


So are you saying that you pay 47 USD per 2x PLEX ? (VAT included) ?

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Brainless Bimbo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2014-06-16 08:26:55 UTC
It´s all to do with The United States of America becoming a third world country, only the top 1% has any disposable income, the next 50 percentile that think they live like Europeans need to be kept in a bubble to stop them using the 2nd against the first.



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Entilarza
HS Holdings
#40 - 2014-06-16 10:00:16 UTC
Well on the other hand one can just look up GTC 60 Days on ebay for a bit less then 24€ (at least german ebay), buy those and convert them to Plex. Sure, not as comfortable as buying plex directly from CCP but if you have those extra 10 Minutes it's quite a good deal ;)