Warfare & Tactics

What you saw was TEST crowing that they had "won" FW because of the loads of LP/isk they were making, and Gallente saying "we'll agree you won as soon as you can actually take something we defend". There was no confusion over their goals, just smack talk over their level of "success" at FW overall.

And hooo, boy... you should take a stroll down memory lane through our killboards. Eha was a non-stop, 23/7 bloodbath for MONTHS while TEST was in FW. You're out of your mind if you think they didn't try to take our homes - we just decided not to let them, numbers and advantages be damned. Had TEST played things differently, they definitely had the mass along with the rest of CalMil to take the warzone... but we were better, and more determined, so they never could.

As in so many ways, you are ill informed about our warzone and the events in it, and draw incredibly erroneous conclusions from those misconceptions. In short, you're bad and should feel bad about it.

you cannot be serious *throws racket down*

As previously mentioned, docking rights are the only real consequence of Faction Warfare.

The fights over station systems are now the hottest and best (albeit horrible T1 attrition wars) centres for action in the whole FW arena.

Yes, stuff can be slid through the station side door with neutral alts to escape some of the ramifications of losing control of your station which is a good thing unlike being 100% locked out in Null - but it is still a major pain for someone to have to do logistically (which is a nifty consequence/penalty for losing in itself).

Now if only system upgrades actually meant something too there might even be worthwhile fighting over non-station systems too.

Im finding the opinions of the pilots from the amarr/minmatar wz are way off base when it comes to the fw experience in the caldari/gallente wz. To bre honest, the warzone is what you make it. We have plenty of fights because we have willing combatants on both sides of militias. We fight to win without worrying if we lose. We ideally wont suicide welp into eachother but fighting for your home systems forces you to do some crazy ****. Which is a plus for station lockouts being conflict drivers.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

Use the mechanics to your advantage, recruit hard and make some pushes. Try to get 'even' fights before escalating into shinies and big gangs. Change doctrines to combat numbers, bash poses or resources of the enemy. Theres alot if things that can be done to change that warzone, someone has to just start doing it instead of complaining about it. Go have fun doing something different than youre doing now in the wz. Apparently it couldnt get any worse so why not?

Hope you guys figure out a way to make that wz as good an experience as mine.

I know plenty of people that say things like, "i dont plex im only here for the pew' and these folks can eventually be convinced to plex because it will bring fights. I used to be one of those guys like 3 years ago. In my wz youre far more likely to get fights if youre plexing or running around chasing guys out of plexes.

When we were fighting in gall systems outnumbered we employed the sniper corm ******* doctrine for smalls, i know youre a vet so youve got plenty of ideas for fighting outnumbered im sure. The real fight for us was convincing our pilots and militia members to get on board and moving to a close staging system, the logistics, powering through the losses and the EU timezone deplexing your efforts.

Taking one step at a time and seeing those small goals reached really brought up the morale and got others to buy in. The real fight was getting people involved.

I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

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