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Is EVE Online the "Top Hardcore MMORPG"?
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Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-06-15 06:19:48 UTC
Hi guys and gals, I was missing you all.

I'm ashamed of not being that loyal customer I would like to be, and here I am, again, playing the game I love since 2006. This time was a 6 month break and I would like to share what I saw yesterday in MMORPG.com:

The List: The Top 5 Hardcore MMORPGs

I didn't play the other games on the list but I agree with him about EVE and was one of the things that made me look for my account management page and reactivate my subscription.

But the fact is:

I really love this game, no matter family/friends/medical advice to avoid it, joke, no medical advice (yet)... I have to say, honestly, I was worried with CCP layoffs on Atlanta but knowing that the focus is back on EVE is very comforting.

I don't know if my signature is showing as this is the 1st post after a long time, but I'm ready for the trolls, if they come, and all are welcome to put any additional thoughts.

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-06-15 06:22:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Sibyyl
Should be mandatory to read the description of EVE in the article prior to posting on GD:
Quote:
Now, all this praise for older games aside, if you’re looking for the ultimate hardcore MMO experience in today’s world, look no further than EVE Online. This game truly defines what it means to be a hardcore, epic, sandbox MMO experience. Make no mistake – this game is far from being a game for everyone. In fact, I am positive that the developers and players pride themselves on their membership in an elite club of people that share a common desire to make each other’s lives as miserable as possible, but have fun while doing so.


Edit: If it wasn't clear, I don't think this is a bad thing at all.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#3 - 2014-06-15 06:37:32 UTC
I've played all of those apart from darkfall. They are all hardcore... though all revamped to be silly newbish hand holding games not worth a dime to any true hardcore mmo player, apart from EVE which is. So I don't agree with the article at all other than it's historic value.
I'd replace Darkfall (I think - never played it) with either Meridian 59 or SWG pre-nge/cu. In fact I'd say EVE and Meridian 59 are about the only hardcore mmo's left really.

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Dave stark
#4 - 2014-06-15 06:49:11 UTC
I can't say i'm surprised.

what happens when you die? you lose all of your ****, no respawn immunity for you, no participation medal, just an empty hangar in a cold station.

you did something dumb like singing on teamspeak and giving all of your items away? no, the gm's won't reimburse your stupidity like in other games, you're **** out of luck and back at square one. (they will reimburse your SP if you tell them you've broken the rules and shared your account, though).

this game is wholly unforgiving and outright cruel at times. however, in an age of "little timmy gets a gold trophy for not dribbling on his shoes", i like that.
ashley Eoner
#5 - 2014-06-15 06:50:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ashley Eoner
Bloody Slave wrote:
Hi guys and gals, I was missing you all.

I'm ashamed of not being that loyal customer I would like to be, and here I am, again, playing the game I love since 2006. This time was a 6 month break and I would like to share what I saw yesterday in MMORPG.com:

The List: The Top 5 Hardcore MMORPGs

I didn't play the other games on the list but I agree with him about EVE and was one of the things that made me look for my account management page and reactivate my subscription.

But the fact is:

I really love this game, no matter family/friends/medical advice to avoid it, joke, no medical advice (yet)... I have to say, honestly, I was worried with CCP layoffs on Atlanta but knowing that the focus is back on EVE is very comforting.

I don't know if my signature is showing as this is the 1st post after a long time, but I'm ready for the trolls, if they come, and all are welcome to put any additional thoughts.

Lineage 2 used to put this game to shame when it came to being hardcore.

FFA pvp everywhere outside of towns. No instances no deadsites just massive dungeons with massive pvp at any moment. Death means lost experience (you could delevel). Die to a mob (which most classes could train on to others) and not only would you lose experience but you would also drop items including that super rare +10 item you broke 20 versions of to get. One death could cost you a weeks worth of leveling (not even the bots were max level). Fighting bosses usually involved fighting other parties while fighting the boss. Not to mention castle sieges and stuff. That game was hardcore in ways eve could never imagine.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#6 - 2014-06-15 06:51:08 UTC
Spaceships are serious business!

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-06-15 06:51:26 UTC
"In fact, I am positive that the developers and players pride themselves on their membership in an elite club of people that share a common desire to make each other’s lives as miserable as possible, but have fun while doing so."

Couldn't of said it better myself. Eve is love, Eve is life.
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-06-15 06:57:30 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Spaceships are serious business!


LoL, Chribba, I din't mention your name to ring that bell... How did I get your attention, Sir? Is there a bell ringing when someone else says love the game?

Yeah, serious business. Lol

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
Solecist Project
#9 - 2014-06-15 07:12:52 UTC
And yet, it's full of cowards and idiots who try to go the easiest routes possible.

Hilarious.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-06-15 07:13:29 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
Bloody Slave wrote:
Hi guys and gals, I was missing you all.

I'm ashamed of not being that loyal customer I would like to be, and here I am, again, playing the game I love since 2006. This time was a 6 month break and I would like to share what I saw yesterday in MMORPG.com:

The List: The Top 5 Hardcore MMORPGs

I didn't play the other games on the list but I agree with him about EVE and was one of the things that made me look for my account management page and reactivate my subscription.

But the fact is:

I really love this game, no matter family/friends/medical advice to avoid it, joke, no medical advice (yet)... I have to say, honestly, I was worried with CCP layoffs on Atlanta but knowing that the focus is back on EVE is very comforting.

I don't know if my signature is showing as this is the 1st post after a long time, but I'm ready for the trolls, if they come, and all are welcome to put any additional thoughts.

Lineage 2 used to put this game to shame when it came to being hardcore.

FFA pvp everywhere outside of towns. No instances no deadsites just massive dungeons with massive pvp at any moment. Death means lost experience (you could delevel). Die to a mob (which most classes could train on to others) and not only would you lose experience but you would also drop items including that super rare +10 item you broke 20 versions of to get. One death could cost you a weeks worth of leveling (not even the bots were max level). Fighting bosses usually involved fighting other parties while fighting the boss. Not to mention castle sieges and stuff. That game was hardcore in ways eve could never imagine.


Hmmm... I'm wondering if we are playing the same game or if EVE changed that much in the last 6 months I was away.

Yeah, yeah, some things are easier nowadays but I do remember playing for 3 months to be able to buy my 1st battleship, back in 2006 and losing it at that most happy week of my gaming life... My eyes still fill with tears.Sad

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
James Archon
Volatile Instability
#11 - 2014-06-15 09:17:36 UTC
Bloody Slave wrote:


I have to say, honestly, I was worried with CCP layoffs on Atlanta but knowing that the focus is back on EVE is very comforting.



Sorry to dissapoint you, but atm they are focusing on "EvE:Valkery" and "EvE:Legion". They have not learned from their mistakes, and they will most likly not be able to uphold their New release dates. Welcome back tho :)
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#12 - 2014-06-15 09:22:50 UTC
Yes, it is, and not just because its the only one not a generic fantasy cookie-cutter lack of imagination dullfest

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Marc Durant
#13 - 2014-06-15 09:36:45 UTC
One of the replies;

Quote:
Nanfoodle writes:


Im shocked WoW didnt make that list, this is a game where the devs admit that only about 1% of the players see all the content.



/facedesk

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Dave stark
#14 - 2014-06-15 09:39:16 UTC
Marc Durant wrote:
One of the replies;

Quote:
Nanfoodle writes:


Im shocked WoW didnt make that list, this is a game where the devs admit that only about 1% of the players see all the content.



/facedesk


probably because 99% of the playerbase are little timmy drooling on his shoes.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-06-15 09:51:23 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Marc Durant wrote:
One of the replies;

Quote:
Nanfoodle writes:


Im shocked WoW didnt make that list, this is a game where the devs admit that only about 1% of the players see all the content.



/facedesk


probably because 99% of the playerbase are little timmy drooling on his shoes.

Wow doesn't need you to use your brain.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#16 - 2014-06-15 10:18:40 UTC
Marc Durant wrote:
One of the replies;

Quote:
Nanfoodle writes:


Im shocked WoW didnt make that list, this is a game where the devs admit that only about 1% of the players see all the content.



/facedesk

it's mmorpg dot com, after you have been banned enough times for making sense, you'll start to understand.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Pine Marten
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-06-15 13:04:51 UTC
James Archon wrote:
Bloody Slave wrote:


I have to say, honestly, I was worried with CCP layoffs on Atlanta but knowing that the focus is back on EVE is very comforting.



Sorry to dissapoint you, but atm they are focusing on "EvE:Valkery" and "EvE:Legion". They have not learned from their mistakes, and they will most likly not be able to uphold their New release dates. Welcome back tho :)

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Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
#18 - 2014-06-15 13:15:23 UTC
If it is only about losing gear, then yes, EVE is quite hardcore and possibly on the top. But since we have clones (even if we have to update them) and cannot be permanently killed, EVE is not hardcore in my book. I haven't played any such MMORPG though (NWN servers with permadeath rules do not count, neither does Nether as the server sizes are so small), nor do I know any of them. Gear losing is usually enough for me, so EVE is just perfect.

As my old maths teacher used to say: "Statistics are like bikinis: It's what they don't show that's interesting". -CCP Aporia
Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#19 - 2014-06-15 13:24:03 UTC
i've never played everquest, but was it considered a hardcore game? from my understanding, it was the first mmo geared towards the masses, but never heard anything about it being hardcore. any former players want to explain what it was like?

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#20 - 2014-06-15 13:27:47 UTC
I see that the MMO community at large still equates "pointless grind" with "hardcore".

Also, dammit. You made me all nostalgic for Ultima Online again. Now those were the days.

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