Crime & Punishment

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You are a natural bro. Until you decide to join the winning team please send James 315 10 million isk and put "permit" as the reason. TIA

The blind leading the blind ensures the white knight menace will never actually pose a threat to the Knights of the New Order.

"..most elite players in the game.."
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OHKAY

What you describe is technically possible, particularly since the launch of Kronos. Though it takes an extreme level of low skills and other 'optimal' conditions to do so.

With T1 fittings, a Kronos nerfed Retriever, absolutely lowest level I skills required to fit and fly, no drones nor fleet boost and the largest Veldspar asteroids you will find in HiSec, you can get the cycle time until you run out of yield in a single asteroid up to around 25 minutes.

(This is the point, where some people stopped reading the last time I mentioned this...)

"25 minutes?! Raaah! AFKKILLKILL!"

However...

The 'yield' by doing so - if you can even call it that - is at a stretch a pathetic 7M ISK/hour, and you'd need to cherry pick the few asteroids with up around 100'000 units of Veld within to keep mining for this amount of time. You cannot keep doing this all day, as you will run out of sufficiently sized rocks to munch. Most rocks you will find in HiSec are about half this size, and as skills improve the time to mining laser 'burnout' drops considerably.

By comparison, at the other end of the scale, a level V Hulk with full Orca boost fills up in about 2m45s. On top of this you will practically always end up 'staggering' your mining lasers and cutting cycles short due to the odd and random asteroid sizes. So here you end up having to tinker with your ship at least once a minute or so on average, about the time it takes to kill a tough NPC battleship in a L4 mission (skill dependent).

All other combinations of barges, skills and boosts are somewhere in between these extremes. Yet in practice, for any sensible yield, mining is hardly 'afk' all day long, or even for 15 minutes at a time. Not even close. For instance on a Mackinaw the average 'tinker time' is about 2 minutes or slightly longer, post Kronos.

PS: You may occasionally see an abomination, where a player mines one asteroid with a single mining laser fitted to a cargo expanded T1 industrial. Takes an absolute eternity to exhaust a single large asteroid that way. Please put those pilots out of their misery when you can.

We are, proof is on the killboards and many many many threads in the past.

PvP = person vs person

Seeing as we are not killing little red crosses aka npc's that would make it PvP. Flying round in space where u will be killed in less that 10 secs, whilst PvP ing capital class ships and many other player flown ships proves we are elite.

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I LOL'd

thx

Please advise with proof how you are better then Code. In anyway, as all I've seen is you whine on the forums about how butthurt and jealous you are. So please show us something unique and different you bring to the table that makes you so special,

If you can't then please just stop whining. Move on, get over the fact that noone knows who you are in game and do something instead.

Inb4 - I don't need proof
Inb4 - random insult
Inb4 - more tears
Inb4 - not answering with proof
Inb4 - being upset and jealous about code success.

Btw show us on the doll where loyalanon touched you.

I don't understand the hate CODE gets. They're just a bunch of people playing in a sandbox. If you know that it's fully possible and legal for your little mining ship to be ganked by a couple of destroyers and you come to an illogical conclusion that because you are defenseless, CCP CONCORD, whatever should protect you. Then in the word of Andrew Ryan. You are a parasite, and you can't have a slice of my pie.


It's my pie dammit.

This is a common mis-conception. Purchasing a permit *and* fully complying with the Code means you are safe from the New Order having to spank you.

Actually ganking a Code-breaking permit holder is kind of a pain in the ass. We have to talk to other Code "people" about it. Then there is a discussion where many examples and precedents are brought up. Sometimes there is much linking of chat-logs and kill mails and of course someone will always check the "holy document" itself. For some reason, links to furry porn are very popular during a revocation summit. And then finally someone will say, "Go ahead and kill him but I'm not reimbursing it." Which is followed by everyone else saying pretty much the same thing.

Then you blow up his whatever.

But sometimes it's much darker. Sometimes an agent or agents will go jihad on us. An agent will link a kill mail of a permit holder and then link THIS!

We do our best to fight the natural, James-given jihad spirit that is always just below the surface in the New Order but on rare occasions it gets loose.