EVE General Discussion

I just lost a ship because I got stuck on an asteroid while trying to warp out... Or rather I was stuck on an asteroid trying to warp out when a foe warped in and scrammed and killed me.

Now dying or losing stuff due to getting stuck in or on geography due to faulty models or collision boxes is never fun.
Which is why making sure that doesn't happen is so important in most games.


Which bring me to my questions;

Why are the collisionboxes for asteroids so oversized compared to the actual model in the first place?

I could have fit a battleship between my ship and the asteroid in question yet the game insisted that my ship try to avoid it making it wobble up and down when it tried to warp.
In fact, while bumping into things seems to be the norm for EvE, asteroids seem to be the exception as anyone that's flown in a belt knows your ship will start turning and twisting to avoid asteroids that visually is no where close to the ship, often times not even in the direction of the flight path.
I mean my ship was parallel to the asteroid with nothing, not that particular astroid or any other objects in front of the ship or even visible when looking in the forward direction. In fact, the visual distance between my ship and the model of the asteroid was so big that it was only by looking at the overview you could see that I was close to it.
Yet my ship kept alternating between trying to fly around an invisible collision box and aligning out. Not succeding with either.



Why hasn't anything been don't to avoid that people get stuck on asteroids while warping?


It isn't like getting stuck on asteroids while trying to warp out adds any important content to the game. Quite the opposite since getting stuck on invisible collision boxes is something most players of computer games would consider an annyoing bug.
And it isn't like this is a difficult problem to fix.
I can think of several solutions on the top of my head, first of all fix the collision boxes so their sizes coresponds with the actual model of the asteroid.
And while giving ships a better AI for paths when warping out or implementing some sort of immunity when stuck on a asteroid is rather complex solutions, the game already makes objects intangible when the speed reach 75% of maximum so why not make that happen a lot sooner.
It wouldn't change things to any significant degree as ships would still need to align and speed up to warp and could still be bumped during that. The only difference would be that it would let you warp instead of getting stuck.


I know I'm ranting but I just lost a ship and it's quite valuable cargo of loot by no fault of my own.

Now I don't mind losing ships it's part of the game. you just learn from it and move on.

Except in this case there was nothing to learn from it.
I didn't make any mistake that got me killed. I can't see invisible things so I had no way of knowing that my path was blocked. And the guy who killed me wasn't a better pilot than me or if he was it really didn't affect the outcome as I was stuck and it took me several seconds before I managed to unstuck myself from the invisible thing that had me immobile in space. After all it takes a while figuring out which way is blocked if you can't see it.
In fact, the only reason it even was a fight was because an invisible wall prevented me from warping. If I hadn't been we would never even seen each other as I would have warped off before he had even warped in.

So yeah when I lose a ship because my computer blows up or some bug prevents me do anything about it I do mind it.

Because they're spheres.

I nearly had an embarrassing encounter by NPCs in a 1b+ Machariel. I could tank, but usually panic plays a factor and you sometimes lose common sense.

I dropped out of warp inside rocks and I couldn't align, I was bumped and got scrambled. Point blank range and only defense was drones and cancelling the warp and manually click furiously out of the rock and punching the afterburner F-key. I fought out alive from that predicament.

I returned and destroyed all. I can only understand how OP feels slightly. Furious.

You answered your own question.

It's not a collision box. It's the effective boundary indicating how an object's mass interferes with our propulsion systems. Remember, we're not using engines based on Newtonian physics to move, instead we're "surfing" on a wave of bent time/space, a wave that is impaired by nearby gravity wells.

Now if our ships had a large deflector dish, we could work miracles.

Your collision box so fat that...

Never warp to 0 to belts, acceleration gate or other similar objects.

Warp to 10 and you'll never be caught.

Golden coming from you. You spend all day showing off on these forums... and fail.

Miner problems.

That's actually not unique to EVE... it's an industry standard