EVE General Discussion

Seriously none of the NPCs outside a one hand countable missions fly any of the newer ships.

No Teir 2 BCs No tier 3 BCs or BSs and no Tech 3 crusiers (though I only expect npc 'officers' that spawn in cruisers to only fly theses as they are 'pod' pilots how else do we kill krull 800x a day and he's still alive?)

They have at least updated models to current as for the longest time guristas flew the old scorpions while new ones where out and about in player hands. However from the story side prespective we all know the pirates had more than enough oppertunities to steal the designs for their regular fleets and modify them for thier own ends. Also the navies of the empires and subfactions should already have had access in some sense they should have had access before the players did.

So can the rest of the navies of the galaxy get thier fleet updates? Like making gate commander have the tiuer 3 battleships while his lts and other flunkies fly lower teirs?

I mean there is no reason why fleets that developed the new ships in question not to be using them against thier enemies yet.

I am aware that overall this would take alot of time due to the simple fact its going to likely to involve not just replacing models but making NPCs more sensible in thier approach. The notion of "While we are at, it might as well fix it right!" comes into play.

This means mission rewrites, ai rewrites, and forcing npcs in not fitting more than 8 guns, and then two more launchers at the same time and the sorts and possibly getting ships to match player ships in terms of fitting at least (when was the last time you saw guns on a kestrel?)

I also do feel that maybe some of the hold back is the V3 project, which is projected to be done by next expansion or sooner. V3s allows for various repaints easily and currently not all factions have ships in thier colors yet fully. There may not be any blood colored abbadons or EOM colored Harbingers or angle colored maelstorms.

However there is a current standard right now that a script could be used to adjust all the various faction npcs spawn. Have the model based on the bounty of the ship (though pure and arbitary value) As it stands there are already ships with horrible and unusual fittings so whats is changing the models going to cause other than barrowing the old fitting of said npcs ships and slapping them on the new hulls where the same situation of having 8 guns and 2 launchers on a hyperion doesnt make as much sense as a megathron doing the same.

So making the highest paid out battleship of the relative spawn group for its area would mean the tier 3 battleship instead of the standard teir 2s we see now.
The most dangerous of battlecruisers using the tier 3 model despite not having the large guns.

This is something that can be done nowish and quicklyish, to go back and make them work as a player ship however would take significantly more time for best example fitting a npc tier 3 bc with heavy guns instead of just having a dps meter set.

You, out of anyone else, surprises me with that sort of question =).

As the devs have stated themselves it would involve a lot of work to update each and every single one of the missions and the NPC rats to use the newer assets. Why that must be so is beyond me, but if its something that requires too much work i believe that there are things higher on the priority list.

The Blood Raiders don't even use the Ashimmu and Cruor.

Angels still use the Cyclone and Thrasher which is off putting since it looks nothing like the other dozen ships in there Line. The Daredevil is still an Angel NPC and has not been moved to Serpentis.

The Sansha do not even have a Battlecruiser or Destroyer model. pretty lame since there was an entire expansion based around them.

Awww the changed it? I mean the mission sucked but still. They should add it back as an Amarr NPC.

There is an NPC Drake out there as well.

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=32390

He is in one of the Pirate Arcs I think.

It should be noted that a few different Ravens Gurista, Caldari and other NPC Factions have 8 Pairs of Rails on them.

NPC Rokhs would cut down on the ridiculousness.

And thats where the majority of the problems of doing this in a timely manner comes in Renan, fittings and npc sensibilites. verses thier ai rewrites which would make it the biggest hurdles to getting this entirely done easily. However the quick solution would be as soon as they're all v3ed retailor the ships on price tags on thier head which is semi consistent with current methoods ibis npcs typically are much cheaper than the assault frigates npcs throw at you.

Im not complaining about the loot though and last time I checked dont the npc faction police drop navy tags?

And not sure about everyone else's lexicon but I rate npcs by grunt/rat (npc belt/mission/site trash) sargent (elite tech 2 like ships) commander (faction aligned) and officer (named npc people)

Anyways original argument updated on the OP.

I think when the amarrians get all v3ed theyll figure out how eom should look like and get them all colored proper.

I wouldn't expect any such change soon. Not because it will involve quite a bit of work. But because they aren't done on the upgrades. We're still missing new models and/or textures for both Minmatar and Amarr ships (and the pirate ones too obviously). Once these are done, I could imagine them maybe doing a mission overhaul updating stuff there. Why should they start to replace ship modells now and then, half a year later, do all the work again, because the next iteration of updates is live?