Wormholes

This man is going places.

We'll just run our sites like we normally do. Balls to the wall.

I can confirm there is nothing to worry about. When I actually warped my 6link-eos with dcu tank into 4 escalation waves for no reason but being confused, it didn't even drop below 40% structure. Even made tanking the site easy for caps, since sleepers hate links even more than they hate triage.
Also mouth hugs to ricehouse, who has been the first to notice that my nag is exceptionally small and green this time.

Ongrid boosts themselves won't happen with the current ship selection. It's been hinted on numerous occasions that CBCs, strats and CS are a poor basis to implement aoe-links since none goes by the tag of small or fast. Should be more clear post T3-revamp, when there actually are 'fast' linkships for a start. Or after the introduction of link destroyers.

So yeah, throw the 4 links you really need on a vulture/sleipnit/eos and just take it into the site. A CS got a tank atleast on par with a Loki, nothing to fear.

Here is where I disagree frankly.

I'd rather get any fight than no fight at all.

I'm not sure what you are saying my kb is saying.

There is nothing to agree with or disagree with. I'm just pointing out that I prefer one over the other.

I would rather play eve than do dishes - I still do dishes.
I would rather make sweet sweet love to my beautiful wife than mow the grass - I still mow the grass.
I would rather devour a pair or sirloin tips than have a burger and fries - I still like burgers and fries very much.

Not all things in life are black and white or 100% inclusive/exclusive. Go with the flow man - do what feels right for you.

Pve = ISK / time. Doing all that gridfu at 600m/s is effing expensive.
Using the bounce with something like two ceptors is also nothing I'd want to do for 10 anoms...

You guys realize that having a ongrid booster makes running sites EASIER right? as long as its on grid boosting its the only ship you even need to rep.

I have seen plenty of roaming fleets have a ongrid booster with them, or even a couple, you cane asily tank a booster for brawling combat. Its the people that sit in their castles that are getting hurt, not the roamers. Theyre now forced to bring their boosts to the fight.

^^ That would be sig blooming battlecruisers running links though which they really don't need.



The area that mostly needs attention due to off grid links is 1v1 and small roving gangs, most WH fights people bring their damnation on grid anyhow unless your fighting in someones home system and then on/off grid links is the least of your worries, likewise big null fights as often as not will have on grid commandships anyhow - none the least it gives FCs something uber tanked to sit in.

The real issue is when for instance your roaming in a solo frig and see another frig but theres not even a way to know if hes truly solo or has a link ship sitting somewhere in system or not until you've commited and found hes got an 18km scram or something which takes away some of the decision making before going into a fight and while ultimately eve isn't a fair game or about fair fights and if thats your thing you in the wrong game really I can see how they are broken in those kind of contexts - I don't see that as justification for wholesale forcing them on grid though. A good start to fixing that would be to have some way to see if someone had links in effect or not before commiting so as to be able to make an informed decision about a fight.

There are other areas this will impact quite badly i.e. I know people who like to have mining + tank + web range links running while some people are doing a bit of mining, others sucking up gas and others clearing some sites and similiar kind of situations and its not really practical to have a boosting ship on grid with every single different group of people - and that is just one example of some of the other ways people use links outside of the straight up PVP/PVE contexts which would be impacted by such a change.

Would that not be an acceptable T1 vs T2 (specialization) trade-off though? In my suggestion there is literally nothing stopping that T1 BC running links from circling a deathstar pos and providing boosts. I specifically didn't enter a percentage penalty on to the Sig Res for the command links simply because I don't know (haven't done the math yet) what would be just enough to keep boosting T3s from being unscannable (as this was really what I was trying to address). It wouldn't take much to alter the formula enough to render them scannable therefore wouldn't have too noticeable an effect on the T1 Battlecruisers running boosts.

Obviously you don't wormhole and or know what you're talking about because in fact sleepers will aggro you if you're on grid. Multiple times they've micro'd to me more than 250 away. Not to mention lately warping more than 250 away gives you a chance to screw up the grid. Some tom foolery by ccp I know it.
If you have a rapier and a damnation in site. They will get caped out. so you'll have to send cap to both, keep a rep on the rapier because it will pop if you don't have one on it permanently while repping for yourself as the carrier.
Clearly you didn't read I do sites with out a weber or carrier in the site.


*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.