Crime & Punishment

People are mad that ******* mouthbreathers like you join a PVP game

not seeing where this is "a pvp game" rather than "a game with pvp option".

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Whether it is Explosions, Markets, Industial. People are competing with each other, it is just the form it takes place in thats differs.

while this is a clever play on words ill grant you that but when people say "pvp" they refer to violence.



thank you. it's a f*cking computer game. how you can call someone a "pussy" just escapes me. do they really take it that seriously that they identify their manhood with shooting lazers at other people in a spaceship game?

I have better solution to unwanted wardecks.

1. Create 1 man alt corp.
2. Create Ally with that Corp.
3. Create 2 more alt corps ( A, B), more if needed.
4. Wardec your ally with corps A and B.
5. Make war mutual with Ally to avoid future costs for corps A, B. WWar never happen for real as its your alt corps.
6. Congratulations!! You have just raised next wardec costs to 150m / week or more ( see point 3 ). That should be high enough
to make it not worth to most griefers.

Enjoy.

can you loan me the initial 1 bil?

Why so mad?

This ^^^

Dev quotes, you special little snowflake. You asked to see where the devs told you it was a PVP game, go look.


Well then fine. If nullsec is for carebears, go carebear there. Wardecs are irrelevant.
Wait, no. You want to do it in highsec, with no wardecs, whilst splurging about how everyone else needs to change.

Let me put this to you:
If PVP isn't a central theme. If PVP isn't the underlying premise, then why does the game ALLOW these things to happen:
- Wardecs.
- Being able to fire on another ship in highsec without aggression or permission.

Both of these things are intentionally coded into the game. Why?

When you answer these, you may become enlightened.

Eve is unique in the fact these things can happen. It is marketed as unique in that these things can happen. I seriously have no idea how you can start playing these game and NOT get that it is a PVP game.

My corp has gone through about 30 high sec wars during our existence. Some have been fun. Most have not.

Some were from corps who really brought a war that was interesting to fight.

Most were from corps run by hormonal adolescents who wanted to scream pVssy and fVggot into local as often as they could, while hugging their home station and undocking long enough to pretend to fight now and then. Why declare a war and expect your opponent, mostly miners and industrialists, to come and play station games with you? Why declare a war and expect other people to bring YOU a fight?

A war dec ought to be a real war, not an excuse for a long week of endless pleas to undock and fight. In my corp, we expect somebody who declares war on us to bring a war and force us to fight by endangering something that we need.

I think the Dec Shield service is terrific. There ought to be a place for newbie corps and small miner corps to get some real protection. This can only help the game.

If high sec were safe for all but consensual pvp, the whole game would grow and pvp opportunities in low sec and null sec would grow, too. I know a lot of people don't agree with that, but I've personally seen three new members quit the game for every one who stayed, most of them because of a ganking or a war dec killing early in their capsuleer careers.

Alt posting makes your argument invalid. Post with main, or gtfo.

And no- RvB doesn't count as PvP. (Although there are PvPers in RvB)

aight "bro". concession accepted.

but im not going to post on my main, because youve proven yourself to be an abusive, bullying type of person and im not going to open myself up to in-game harassment just because your little bully ego is too fragile to have the flaws in your reasoning pointed out to you...

ahem.

Actually, since you completely picked apart a brief, yet suprisingly thorough write up of how to handle a war dec without giving your would be opposition the glory in making you 'turn tail and run' as it were; you give me half a dozen reasons basically saying your entirely to lazy to be asked to do something other then whatever it is you do; and how dare the them for mettling with your simple wishes to be an all inclusive ****** I mean carebear to your hearts content.

I have conceded no argument my good man, and you over affectionate use of the word 'bro' has been noted. However, EvE being the multi-faceted beast that it is, deems PvP as a multitude of things, some people play the market and the .01 ISK game (with or without the use of unscrupulous 3rd party programming), some manipulate the mineral market (by either force or asset denial... i.e. the GoonSwarm Ice-Ban); others build vast industrial complexes producing all manner of things (and flooding the market with them, to form a strategic withdrawl of good (and forcibily increase demand)); and some people prefer the simple enjoyment of blowing someone up- At least the war dec'ing corp gave you the luxury of saying 'Hey.. in 24 hours, its on.' Unlike myself or some of my friends... 'Wait- whats that -10 thrasher doing?' 'Oh its locking me' 'I didn't want that Hulk anyway'.

All the examples previously mentioned are all forms of PvP. If nobody died- there wouldn't be a drive for item/ship/module production, if there was no production, there would be no mining, and if there were no mining, there would also be no ratting, and if there were no ratting, we'll we'd all be running L5's/Incursions for the hell of it, enjoying our utopian paradise where nothing ever, under any circumstances gets exploded... does this sound fun to you? Amazing, go download a trainer and play Command and Conquer or some other ****** RTS.

All of the trailers in the last few years have all been based on conquering space, crushing adversaries, or paying back old grudges. I have yet to see a single trailer with a message of 'Play EvE. Enjoy Space Harvesting, Eventually Build Stuff'. Why?

Because its ******* dull.

I eagerly await your response about what a terrible poster I am, and how I must be wrong.