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When is too early to create a new corporation?

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#21 - 2014-06-12 18:49:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
Corporationso encounter serious problems that their CEOs need to be capable of resolving. If you're incapable of both violence and/or effective diplomacy then you're definitely not ready. You're also going to have to provide content for your members sometimes.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#22 - 2014-06-13 02:21:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
If you want to make a solo corp to take the minor risk that is establishing an empire POS, I would say 'too early' is any time when losing your POS would be crippling.

If you want to actively recruit, I would say you are ready to do that when you have either carried out, or intimately studied, three or more different types of corporate espionage/war incidents. Ideally one each of a predatory wardec, a 'for the lulz' safari, a 'for revenge/contract' safari, and a deep infiltration corp theft.

It also helps to have an understanding of other incidents that can and will come up, to help you differentiate legitimate errors from intentional attacks on your corp.



Edit: I've played for a couple years, understand a lot of game mechanics intricately, and have recognised that I am not ready to (or interested in) setting up or leading a 'real corp'. I remain CEO of this joke corporation I created months ago as a trap for mission/incursion runners that joined without carrying out background research on me - one of them lost a multi-billion ISK ship to my treachery.

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-06-13 06:55:00 UTC
Quant Predictorian wrote:
Is there such thing?

Generally, for the benefit fo the whole community, and to increase the likelihood of you actually joining the game's community and staying past the 6-8 month "barrier", you should instead focus on joining an established corp with leadership thats had enjoyment and experience in all aspects of EVE. That way you cna get tips, pointers, and startup assistance in finding you way around EVE. Once your at the point you KNOW what/how/when/where to do things efectively, and believe yourself enough to teach/direct others in those activities, THEN you are ready to make your own orporation.

Dont get me wrong, your free to create yoru own corporation, but statistics show that new corps run for "noobs" by "noobs" tend to end badly, either in drama, relationship fallout, "team killing", or blatant scam/robbery of members. and being alone in a 1-man corp is a VERY quick route to hitting the 6-8 month "barier" like an egg to a brick wall and quitting EVE, because trust me, NOTHING in EVE is fun solo, hell, even 1v1 pvp takes 8 people and a pack of beers, else who would you brag to.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2014-06-13 06:58:32 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Corporationso encounter serious problems that their CEOs need to be capable of resolving. If you're incapable of both violence and/or effective diplomacy then you're definitely not ready. You're also going to have to provide content for your members sometimes.

Foolproof 3-step process to providing corp content

1) recruit some excon aussies with time (preferably excons for stupid **** like repeated publi intoxication and sleeping through parole officer meetings)
2) Buy them or encourage them to buy beer
3) Point them towards lowsec and tell them to bring some mates

There you go, nightly content, lots of teamspeak/mumble laughs, and the occasional faction-fit vindicator kill when the vindi's carrier/rep support is even drunker and confused than your Aussie FC
Oraac Ensor
#25 - 2014-06-13 11:16:01 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
NOTHING in EVE is fun solo
Wrong.


Nariya Kentaya wrote:
who would you brag to
Bragging is for those who are not having fun but feel the need to pretend that they are.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2014-06-13 17:10:10 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
NOTHING in EVE is fun solo
Wrong.


So I guess you find missioning and mining to be absolutely thrilling, right? because thats the only solo activities in EVE, period, and they arent fun, just necessary.


Oraac Ensor wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
who would you brag to
Bragging is for those who are not having fun but feel the need to pretend that they are.

So you have an awesome fight between say, an inty and an assault frig, barely beat the assault frig with 10% structure left just as his buddies land and get out, you dont think thats cool? Would just rather ignore it happened and never speak of it again?

Theres two types of bragging, one deals with insecurities and is the subject of constant hyperbole to secure the speaker's own feelings, the other is to SPREAD the fun to encourage friends to join in.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-06-13 21:22:35 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
NOTHING in EVE is fun solo
Wrong.


So I guess you find missioning and mining to be absolutely thrilling, right? because thats the only solo activities in EVE, period, and they arent fun, just necessary.


He has a point.

Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean anybody else doesn't like it.

There are people who like to mine.
There are people who like to mission.
There are people who like to PvP.
There are people who like to (insert activity).

That's the beauty of EVE, you can do what you like.
The people claiming you can't do "x" or "y" or that you MUST play with others are the stupid people in EVE and you should never listen to them.

Quote:
So you have an awesome fight between say, an inty and an assault frig, barely beat the assault frig with 10% structure left just as his buddies land and get out, you dont think thats cool? Would just rather ignore it happened and never speak of it again?

Theres two types of bragging, one deals with insecurities and is the subject of constant hyperbole to secure the speaker's own feelings, the other is to SPREAD the fun to encourage friends to join in.


That is not bragging, that's storytelling.

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2014-06-13 22:26:17 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
NOTHING in EVE is fun solo
Wrong.


So I guess you find missioning and mining to be absolutely thrilling, right? because thats the only solo activities in EVE, period, and they arent fun, just necessary.


He has a point.

Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean anybody else doesn't like it.

There are people who like to mine.
There are people who like to mission.
There are people who like to PvP.
There are people who like to (insert activity).

That's the beauty of EVE, you can do what you like.
The people claiming you can't do "x" or "y" or that you MUST play with others are the stupid people in EVE and you should never listen to them.

Quote:
So you have an awesome fight between say, an inty and an assault frig, barely beat the assault frig with 10% structure left just as his buddies land and get out, you dont think thats cool? Would just rather ignore it happened and never speak of it again?

Theres two types of bragging, one deals with insecurities and is the subject of constant hyperbole to secure the speaker's own feelings, the other is to SPREAD the fun to encourage friends to join in.


That is not bragging, that's storytelling.

Its bragging since he won.

And i didnt say people dont enjoy mining/missioning, but no one has FUN doing them. having money from missioning can let you have fun, getting a shiny upgrade to your mission boat can eb fun, but the missions are just a means to an end, everyone agrees to that. as for mining, it can be fun to socialize with corpmates while you do it, relaxing to make some money with little needed interaction, but it itself is not fun. and neither of the two were designed to be in the first place.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-06-14 05:32:50 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:

And i didnt say people dont enjoy mining/missioning, but no one has FUN doing them. having money from missioning can let you have fun, getting a shiny upgrade to your mission boat can eb fun, but the missions are just a means to an end, everyone agrees to that. as for mining, it can be fun to socialize with corpmates while you do it, relaxing to make some money with little needed interaction, but it itself is not fun. and neither of the two were designed to be in the first place.


A. Enjoying something is the same thing as having fun doing something.

B. Again, you are mixing facts with your personal opinion.
If you cant give factual advice or say that its your personal opinion about a matter, dont post.

A RL friend of mine plays EVE and has loads of fun by just mining and industry. I on the other hamd dont like it, doesnt mean that its not possible.

For people who dont like to PvP, it is not fun and you should not do it so stop what you are doing if you PvP as according to your logic it is impossible to have fun in that because someone else doesnt find it fun to do.

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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#30 - 2014-06-16 15:42:12 UTC
Removed some off topic posts.

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