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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#81 - 2014-06-12 13:15:26 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:

What more do you want?


They want more themepark content. And they are trying to use the "new player experience" line as a smokescreen to ask for it, the same reason people say "It's for the children" in real life, to make an unreasonable request sound like a reasonable one.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2014-06-12 13:17:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
Prince Kobol wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
kirean3464 wrote:
the future of eve


Take a look here.

Blink




Yeah..

Future of Eve

Oops My Bad

Big smileBig smile


And don't forget this cool stuff: COOL STUFF

Where is all that content huh CCP? Roll

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:

What more do you want?


They want more themepark content. And they are trying to use the "new player experience" line as a smokescreen to ask for it, the same reason people say "It's for the children" in real life, to make an unreasonable request sound like a reasonable one.


So it's the players that promise the world at fanfest and fail to deliver... Interesting.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Spectral Tiger
#83 - 2014-06-12 13:21:36 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:

What more do you want?


They want more themepark content. And they are trying to use the "new player experience" line as a smokescreen to ask for it, the same reason people say "It's for the children" in real life, to make an unreasonable request sound like a reasonable one.




So what's this theme park content you are talking about? Can you give us some examples?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#84 - 2014-06-12 13:22:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Rek Seven wrote:


So it's the players that promise the world at fanfest and fail to deliver... Interesting.


So..

Let me get this right

After a barrage of things that disprove your "nothing is planned, EvE is dying" rant

You cherry pick one thing that wouldn't have actually added anything to the game for at least months if not years?

If at all?

Stop trying to derail this into another boring WiS argument

How about answering any of the points raised about how subs are not haemorraghing and indy and mining is stronger and more popular than its ever been and is getting even more buffs?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#85 - 2014-06-12 13:22:29 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:

Where is all that content huh CCP? Roll


That particular content has been left to die in obscurity where it belongs.

Good riddance.


Quote:

So it's the players that promise the world at fanfest and fail to deliver... Interesting.


And you want more of that? More failed delivery, borked concepts that have to be fixed over years, or quietly swept into a corner and ignored?

You actually want more of that kind of thing?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2014-06-12 13:32:25 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
kirean3464 wrote:
the future of eve


Take a look here.

Blink




Yeah..

Future of Eve

Oops My Bad

Big smileBig smile


And don't forget this cool stuff: COOL STUFF

Where is all that content huh CCP? Roll(...)


Apparently it is so dead that you can't open threads about it, else they are deedem "redundant" and closed. What?

Q: Should we be worried? A: Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.
Solecist Project
#87 - 2014-06-12 13:35:57 UTC
People still haven't learned that what lesser MMOs provide isn't actually content,
but simply the successfull attempt to drive people to do the same crap over and over again,
by feeding and satisfying their lower instincts.

Real content in EVE is literally everywhere and it's unscripted!

Consumers are an illness.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Higgs Foton
Mission And Mining Inc
#88 - 2014-06-12 13:36:18 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
kirean3464 wrote:
the future of eve


Take a look here.

Blink



I have been to two fanfests myself, and there was stuff introduced (Ring mining! Walking in stations! Expandable POS! Player built gates!) which i have yet to see come to fruition. My conclusion is that CCP is just calling the results of their brainstorm sessions at fanfest to have some content, without really planning to do something of substance with it.. So i do not really believe what has been said in those movies. I find the implementation of "new stuff" a tad on the slowish side. We need more psssshhhhh.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#89 - 2014-06-12 13:38:04 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:

What more do you want?


They want more themepark content. And they are trying to use the "new player experience" line as a smokescreen to ask for it, the same reason people say "It's for the children" in real life, to make an unreasonable request sound like a reasonable one.


Samuel L. Jackson voice

Think of the mother ******* children, mother ******

/Samuel L. Jackson voice

Twisted
Colonel Jim Irwin
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#90 - 2014-06-12 13:39:37 UTC
I bougth a playstation 4 :D
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#91 - 2014-06-12 13:41:48 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:


So it's the players that promise the world at fanfest and fail to deliver... Interesting.


If you believe what you see at fanfest, well that means you're the right guy to take a look at some seafront property I'm selling for cheap in Colorado.
Tricia Killnu
The Horn
#92 - 2014-06-12 13:44:18 UTC
Just undock and blow up ships

Its pretty satisfying. . .

Sometimes you just have to realized you undocked and you suck. . .
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2014-06-12 13:49:25 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:


So it's the players that promise the world at fanfest and fail to deliver... Interesting.


So..

Let me get this right

After a barrage of things that disprove your "nothing is planned, EvE is dying" rant

You cherry pick one thing that wouldn't have actually added anything to the game for at least months if not years?

If at all?

Stop trying to derail this into another boring WiS argument

How about answering any of the points raised about how subs are not haemorraghing and indy and mining is stronger and more popular than its ever been and is getting even more buffs?


The only people ranting are the people on your side of the fence mate. I already stated why I feel the way do and I attempted to justify my claims. Perhaps you missed it so i'll post it again for you:

Rek Seven wrote:

For those of you that believe fixes alone are the answer to all the problems, please take a look at the following information. Server numbers are steadily declining and they are almost as low as they were during the summer of rage. The highest they have ever been was between the incursion and incarna releases, so make of that what you will...
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
. Straight


Now as for the " barrage of things that disprove your "nothing is planned, EvE is dying" rant" i have honestly missed anything that disproves anything i say.

If you have evidence to prove that fixing broken parts of the game results in more subscriptions and a better game than adding new content, i would be glad to hear it and debate it with you.

Once again, I like the fact that CCP are fixing parts of the game but that doesn't stop me from wanting new content to give me something new to do.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#94 - 2014-06-12 13:52:30 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:


Now as for the " barrage of things that disprove your "nothing is planned, EvE is dying" rant" i have honestly missed anything that disproves anything i say.

If you have evidence to prove that fixing broken parts of the game results in more subscriptions and a better game than adding new content, i would be glad to hear it and debate it with you.


They do both

And you are choosing to ignore anything that doesn't fit your point of view

You are unhappy

Maybe you should go, have a sit down, and think why a video game makes you so unhappy

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#95 - 2014-06-12 13:56:12 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:


If you have evidence to prove that fixing broken parts of the game results in more subscriptions and a better game than adding new content, i would be glad to hear it and debate it with you.

Once again, I like the fact that CCP are fixing parts of the game but that doesn't stop me from wanting new content to give me something new to do.


If you need ccp to add new content to give you new things to do, you're playing the wrong game. 7 years I've played and I'm still finding new things to do, even more so now that CCP is making old useless things new .

I now know for a fact that an Impel can tank the citadel torp from a 10/10 while deploying a jet can of cap boosters (toi keep my dual XLASB machariel dps ship from running out of them while It kills the overseer) NO LOGISTICS SHIP REQUIRED. But the only reason I know that now is because I'm a sandbox PVE player playing a sandbox MMO thus i make my own damn 'content'.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2014-06-12 14:15:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
Jenn aSide wrote:
Rek Seven wrote:


If you have evidence to prove that fixing broken parts of the game results in more subscriptions and a better game than adding new content, i would be glad to hear it and debate it with you.

Once again, I like the fact that CCP are fixing parts of the game but that doesn't stop me from wanting new content to give me something new to do.


If you need ccp to add new content to give you new things to do, you're playing the wrong game. 7 years I've played and I'm still finding new things to do, even more so now that CCP is making old useless things new .

I now know for a fact that an Impel can tank the citadel torp from a 10/10 while deploying a jet can of cap boosters (toi keep my dual XLASB machariel dps ship from running out of them while It kills the overseer) NO LOGISTICS SHIP REQUIRED. But the only reason I know that now is because I'm a sandbox PVE player playing a sandbox MMO thus i make my own damn 'content'.


I agree, and i'm starting to realise the game isn't for me. I play it because i love sci fi and the concept of eve sounded cool but now that i have experienced everything that interests me in EVE, it's become boring. I actually canceled my sub last week so i can take a break for the first time in four years (no, you can't have my stuff) but hopefully i'll have a reason to come back someday.

I don't know why we are all arguing tbh. I can accept that you guys are happy with the game but why can't you accept that other people derive fun from different things that you? For example, EVE pve is mundane and tedious to me to no matter how clever it made me feel that i could use industrial ships to do 10/10 sites, i would never consider it fun new content.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#97 - 2014-06-12 14:19:46 UTC
Rek Seven wrote:


I don't know why we are all arguing. I can accept that you guys are happy with the game but why can't you accept that other people derive fun from different things that you?


We can

Its when you get abusive to people that dont understand why you are so unhappy with this game that leads to conflict.

If you dont like this game the way it is, why should the rest of us accept your proposed changes when the net result of that in our opinion would make us unhappy?

What is it about EvE that makes people play, but when they find they dont like it, rather than change to a game they do enjoy, they lobby to have the game itself changed?

That, my dear Doctor, is the nub of the conflict in this kind of thread.

But what do I know? Im just a simple Cardassian tailor

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#98 - 2014-06-12 14:22:21 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:

That, my dear Doctor, is the nub of the conflict in this kind of thread.

But what do I know? Im just a simple Cardassian tailor


Goddamit. Have a like. A very begrudging like.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2014-06-12 14:24:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
Ramona McCandless wrote:

Its when you get abusive to people that dont understand why you are so unhappy with this game that leads to conflict.

If you dont like this game the way it is, why should the rest of us accept your proposed changes when the net result of that in our opinion would make us unhappy?

What is it about EvE that makes people play, but when they find they dont like it, rather than change to a game they do enjoy, they lobby to have the game itself changed?


When was i abusive? What changes did i propose that would result in you being unhappy? If new content makes you unhappy does that mean you are against the "new space" ccp has planned? Straight

I can't speak for everyone but the investment I've put into training my character and the social connections i've made in the game makes me want to stick around inspite of the games faults.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#100 - 2014-06-12 14:43:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Rek Seven wrote:


When was i abusive? What changes did i propose that would result in you being unhappy? If new content makes you unhappy does that mean you are against the "new space" ccp has planned? Straight

I can't speak for everyone but the investment I've put into training my character and the social connections i've made in the game makes me want to stick around inspite of the games faults.


*sigh* Its like talking to my mother

Lets handle this in order

1) I'm not going to point out where you have basically gone out of your way to call people who disagree with you liars, but I sincerely wish that you could have some manners.

2) Where did I say new content makes me unhappy. I was specifically talking about instances where changes were demanded that would directly impact the nature of the game. If you would like to propose new content that would not do this, I am sure we would be happy to discuss these with you rationally

3) What investment? What do you think you are investing? Time? Money? Isk? This is a well beaten horse. As skills trian themselves, you have invested no time. Setting your skill queue does not prevent you from doing anything. Money? you pay for server access and access to the game engine. Skills are part of that, but what return on a monetary investment are you expecting? Isk? Skills are dirt cheap, so I dont know what you mean here either.

4) Sticking around? So thats why you unsubbed, right?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann