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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#21 - 2014-06-07 06:57:17 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
I can't remember the last time I flew a T1 frig.

Oh yeah, it was when I was a cyno frig for a house move.

Seriously stop being such a scrub and get some better toys. Or get mummy to buy some for you >.<

You probably can't remember the last time you got a solo kill either. Different playstyles use different tools - you should know that.

And yes, the relative lack of complaining is very disappointing. I think it is a clear indication that CCP didn't nerf farming enough.

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Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2014-06-07 11:41:10 UTC
Not to derail the complaints or trolls (here I go anyways); Has there been any analysis of the relative isk/hr before and after the change to farming? I saw a work up for the VP delta so far, but would love to see some data on "ideal conditions" farming now vs last week.
Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#23 - 2014-06-07 11:54:33 UTC
Liuni Kalthis wrote:
Seems the only way to really win FW anymore is either blob or spend 100mil on a pirate frigate if you are solo. GG CCP

You are bashing I-hubs in frigates while solo?

Or instead of winning fw did you mean completing a plex?

Train more than 16 hours worth of skills and you'll be fine. It is not hard.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-06-07 12:22:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Gully Alex Foyle
Froggy Storm wrote:
Not to derail the complaints or trolls (here I go anyways); Has there been any analysis of the relative isk/hr before and after the change to farming? I saw a work up for the VP delta so far, but would love to see some data on "ideal conditions" farming now vs last week.

I do not have any statistical data.

But I would bet that ISK/LP increase from the 20-30% VP decrease we are seeing will more than compensate the few seconds of extra time needed to deal with npc spawns in a ship with some dps.

In other words, farmers that will put a bit more effort will get slightly less LP/hr but more ISK/hr, imo.

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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#25 - 2014-06-08 11:27:42 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
I can't remember the last time I flew a T1 frig.

Oh yeah, it was when I was a cyno frig for a house move.

Seriously stop being such a scrub and get some better toys. Or get mummy to buy some for you >.<


Wooow..

Ok please tell me.. I have to know..

How can i be as cool as you?

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Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#26 - 2014-06-08 17:07:45 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
I can't remember the last time I flew a T1 frig.

Oh yeah, it was when I was a cyno frig for a house move.

Seriously stop being such a scrub and get some better toys. Or get mummy to buy some for you >.<


Wooow..

Ok please tell me.. I have to know..

How can i be as cool as you?


We could spoon if you like :)
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#27 - 2014-06-08 17:44:41 UTC
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Machiavelli's Nemesis wrote:
I can't remember the last time I flew a T1 frig.

Oh yeah, it was when I was a cyno frig for a house move.

Seriously stop being such a scrub and get some better toys. Or get mummy to buy some for you >.<


Wooow..

Ok please tell me.. I have to know..

How can i be as cool as you?


We could spoon if you like :)


I'm Too Sexy for T1 Frigates....
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#28 - 2014-06-09 13:09:41 UTC
Zappity wrote:

And yes, the relative lack of complaining is very disappointing. I think it is a clear indication that CCP didn't nerf farming enough.



Sooooo true.

They apparently didn't like my suggestion of making ships fit with stabs simply explode if they entered a plex.
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-06-10 07:44:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Luwc
Liuni Kalthis wrote:
Seems the only way to really win FW anymore is either blob or spend 100mil on a pirate frigate if you are solo. GG CCP


l2p

Fed Navy Comet.
Slicer
Hookbill
Tristan

On a side note. Yes I know everybody and their moms flying worms nowadays after the buff.

Plus you can pick fights in FW and even kinda "filter" with the different sites.

edit : you dont need fancy azz **** for FW.

Most of the people flying that kinda stuff got pimped out clones and off grid boosts so even if you spend the money on that kinda ship you still wont cut it.

Just be smart and pick your fights instead of trying to play the "I WIN CARD".

Or simply fly in fleets and blob them. Have a nice expensive KM.

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Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-06-11 17:31:35 UTC
Can confirm I get more ISK/hr now than I did before.

Sellin' stuff at 5k:1 ratios. nbd.
gas guzzler
Virtus Crusade Highsec Chapter
#31 - 2014-06-11 23:46:35 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
Liuni Kalthis wrote:
Seems the only way to really win FW anymore is either blob or spend 100mil on a pirate frigate if you are solo. GG CCP


or boost


this
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#32 - 2014-06-12 12:31:49 UTC
Liuni Kalthis wrote:
Seems the only way to really win FW anymore is either blob or spend 100mil on a pirate frigate if you are solo. GG CCP


Take a nice T1-frigate. Meta-fit if your T2-skills are still in training. D-Scan. If something shows up you can't beat, bounce around the celestials a bit.

Or alternatively, after a nice afternoon of collecting LP, just fight anyway. If you're like me and prefer PVPing in empty clones, you can even just set your pod to autopilot afterwards and go to lunch. When you're back, you'll be back home one way or another.

Also keep your home stocked with T1-frigates and fits, so you can easily start again next time.

Now if you do this for a while, you can start to do silly things like faction frigs or upgrading to T2. Maybe even start using some the alternative ship-skins if you want to go down in style. You don't need to, however. It's just for fun.

Hope this little guide helps you out of this crazy 100-million-ISK-blob-pirate-maze you're stuck in.
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