EVE General Discussion

I´m sorry that you think you can play eve without thought and effort, that easy mode should be the norm and that Jita is the only place to trade, but reward should reflect effort and risk and you seem to want to avoid both.



thanks for your insights. Yet again I am overwhelmed by the bigotry of people on these forums.

1. I stated that as a new player I thought hacking and archaeology were going to be about exploring the universe, would contain and tie-in to deep lore, would revolve around a plethora of missions, gaining a deep understanding of npc factions, maybe having to solve chain quests, mysteries....as an example, discovering an old Jovian deep in space who is looking for his daughter and sends me in search of her, and in the process I have to solve lots of clues etc.
If you knew me, or if you had taken the time to read my posts, then you would most definitely not consider me a mindless bimbo.

2. Because none of the above is what hacking/arch is about - a huge disappointment to me when discovering all hacking/arch is about is making isk - then all I asked was that data sites contained worthwhile loot for the risk of being in nullsec, and to bring their value up to that of relic sites.

3. I have answered those who shout "market market" - I have no issue at all with the market value of individual loot items, and neither would I want to interfere with the market. But what has 2-3 cans per site containing only carbon got to do with the market? Nothing.

4. For the guy who says he just ran 3 sites and scopped half a billion - yeah right, get a grip, pure fantasy. Five relic quarrys in a row and you might just scrape half a billion. Data sites? It would take roughly tale between 40-50 sites.

I suggest reading my post.

I said "hundreds of sites". Not one site. Do you really think so little of people that they would whine on a forum after one disappointing experience.

Think it was a mistake of me to think using the forum was a good place to suggest an improvement to the game. People just seem to pounce on anything that smacks of negativity.

In real life if I suggested ways to improve your finances would you pounce on me and say...no! leave everything as it is. I don't want improvements! we'd still be living in caves.

I wouldn't mind rats in the sites. or more difficult hacks. or chain puzzles. a hack within a hack within a hack. Don't mind any of these suggestions.
My posts about the subject are suggesting improvements to the whole profession. I would like hacking/arch to be about uncovering hidden aspects of eve, not at all to do with isk. But if it is only about isk, then at least make them profitable. That's all I said.

**** you for condemning someone to high-sec to live like a carebear.

And T3 plexing in null, in hostile space, with Cov-ops and null inter fit is a royal ***** to do.

Six data sites scanned in 30mins in gurista region...come grab em.

I've removed hacking module. Pointless.

So... only three factions? Cuz I've been all over. I prefer Sleeper sites, at least they're a challenge.

Probably faction BPC drops. If I was to guess I would say pod mods dropped 1/50 sites and towers around 1/200 sites.

There still do exist hacking sites with rats in k-space, they are drug production sites that come under the gas category. If you have trained hacking to V then I'd suggest going to a gas region and doing these, along with relics. At least the Hacking training hasn't gone completely to waste this way.

One thing they could do is make the game harder. Currently with skills at V I can blitz the red core game and win 95% of the time. This shouldn't be possible. The red core games, at the very least, should require time and strategy to go through to reach a 95% success rate. Once skills reach V it's almost like being back to the old "click and get bacon" system, only with more clicking, which defeats the purpose of the minigame.

I don´t think u understand what bigotry is please read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

i´m saying its your lack of understanding, and its more condescension than any thing else.



Then blame CCP for misleading you with their spiel, your expectations may have been unduly raised or you may have expected a dynamic MMO to provide the same story lines that you find in single player games like the old X series etc..., eve is a sandbox, you make and you are the content, and the lower the sec status the more true it becomes.



Umm.... isn´t everything about making isk????????? and sites, just cargo scan and leave the crap ones, that´s whats happening to you with the data sites, they provide far more value overall than relics. learn and adapt don´t start from an assumption.



if it provides no utility, like carbon, just jet it and move on, 2m³ more for high value items, you do not have to carry it about, its not a ball and chain is it!



As i said, your getting the crap left by others, they scan, see sod all of value and move on, at least they leave the site whole, lots just eat the decent can and leave it.



Have no expectations and eve will go better for you.

How about making all the sites a single can, immune to cargo analyzer and make them despawn once the darn can is opened? It won't solve the issue some people have with the quantity/value of the loot but at least we won't be scanning empty sites...

The exploration changes were a big fail. I quit exploration with the intro of the minigame.

I presume the intent of the changes were to make a profession that previously required good skills, much personal knowledge and a well fitted cloaky combat capable ship (at one stage a Pilgrim Force Recon was pretty much standard) more accessible to new players. What resulted was a profession that tempted new players but then frustrated them and drove a lot to quit out of boredom.