EVE General Discussion

I can tell you haven't done any research on the topic. As just one example, PL allows renters to build supercaps (and charges through the nose for the privilege) however, if you sell the supercap to PL, they refund the rent and pay for the supercap.

I can also tell that you have no idea how much ISK can be made in nullsec, esp in some quiet, stable corner far, far off the beaten track where you can fully expect that sov won't change hands unexpectedly any time in the forseeable future. If you recruit people to use the various income streams available (i.e., some ratters, some miners, some builders, etc), the rent can be quickly eclipsed by the profits. Like everything else in EVE, it's all about how well organized you are.

At around 90 to 120 mill per hour ratting (or more depending on how you do it and how many characters you do it with), that's 50 hrs of actual ratting time. 5 people is 10 hrs per player. 10 people is 5 hrs per player. If you have a corp with 20 to 40 actual players, it's even less. Add in some mining and production and the cost per player goes down, down, down. Some corps charge flat fees per character, some charge taxes (5% is a rough average). Some charge for additional services (e.g., setting up a personal POS, cyno generators, that sort of thing). There are some renter corps that are essentially sub-letting their space.

It's funny that people look down on renters. In RL, we're all renting economic activity space that is protected by a military that we don't answer to. We call them corporatoins and nation states. All things considered, it's a pretty good deal.

Oh my are you mistaken...

In my case: both.

I pay 1.5b a month for my own personal system, and I've gone through at least 2 periods where I didn't log on for so long that the military index fell to nil. I have an alt account but have chosen deliberately to not use it in null thus far. (wanted the solo experience). As the sugar is in ded signature spawns, its actually more profitable timewise for a single player to work a lowband system than it is for a corp, as I get all the deds and minprofs for myself.

As I've said before, a single highband system can support a 200 character ratting corp, if they do not concentrate into a timezone, ie they are a natural resource exploiter, not a natural army. 10B for a high end system with lots of sanctums amongst 200 characters is 50m ratting tax per character per month, which for active players the management can extract with a 10% bounty tax.

Ignoring for the moment that carriers work for ratting post-kronos patch, I shoot about 25m ticks with a battleship in sanctums, so the management would be asking players to shoot 500m a month, pocket 450m themselves and pay 50m tax to the corp, or about 7 hours of sanctum ratting a month. Something I could do in 1 saturday if needed and not interrupted too much.

Your name keeps reminding me of pokemon. :/

my CEO rented in Delve a long time ago. Our alliance spent lots of time scurrying to get the funds together to pay the rent.


We managed to sit in station 75% of the time a non blue showed in local. Zero fights and some ratting. Then halfway through a renting month our landlords gave us 24 hours to leave for *reasons*.

Long story short I lost a Domi, a Brutix and a Megathron because the Alliance CEO got his JF nuked

The 'rebels' are just a bunch of terrorists led by energy sword wielding religious fanatics (Jed-Queda) who think a staph infection (aka "Midi-chlorians") gives them some God ('The Force') given right to rule the galaxy.

-Signed, Darth Jennasidious