EVE General Discussion

Ok guys this is not a flame post or anything like that i am simply asking other peoples opinions.
Personally i feel like eve online has been stagnating for a very long time every up coming patch we seem to get
a really cool video and that is about it, i mean walk on stations, walk on planets, opening the market to the dust bunnies
ring mining, i feel like every patch that comes out its holy crap this looks awesome and what we actually get is possibly some new ships and then endless ship balances and ui tweeks. i mean all good stuff all important stuff but its nothing more to do i mean if your pvping thats one thing its all about the kills and the fleets etc but what if your not?

Anyone mining has to choices either hope the nice low or null sec guys wont charge you to much or shoot you or keep hoping 6 dudes in catalysts dont show up to show you why carebearing is bad. Miners need some serious buffing i mean i have mined for a long time myself and unless you fly a skiff and are willing to sacrifice yeild your nothing but a gank target and thats only every a matter of time.
why would you mine with the risk of ganks the effort of selling minerals when you can just train a logi and roll into incursions which are down to such a art form there is hardly point in doing anything else to make money and the changes to the mining barges unless i messed up my maths does nothing at all so id like to see miners get something to defend themselves with against gankers ma-by some deploy able that jams when the barge gets hit or something id like to see ring mining being implemented to break the monopoly on moons since it was supposed to give moon minerals something to make mining engaging and actually worth it.

incursions i would defiantly like to see get mixed up maby some new units added to it or maby something like a tower that shoots back just something that makes it a little more interesting than shoot in the right order collect insane reward repeat mining used to be the nice safe money now its incursions and its a lot more profitable there isn't much to say on that subject as i mentioned its down to a fine art now.

pvp i am by no means one to talk about it i have not done enough of it to have an opinion i am pretty much sat farming incursions until i have all my skills at max level and all the shiny pvp ships i want before i go to learn the only point i would like to suggest on that front is when it comes to station or pos bashing i think it would be fun to let the dust bunnies take it over with you something like rip down the shields and then launch a drop ship in full of dust guys and if yours win they blow up the strontium supply, or allow them to take down poccos or something to make them active in the game but thats just an idea

as for the dust guys they simply need the market opened to us in my opinion, i play dust or at least i used to until i came to realize that even apart from the game being totally unbalanced its impossible to afford equipment ask any dust guy and they will tell you all they ever spend money on is there gun, even my guy if i was to use my best gear i cant die for the next 14 rounds if i want to break even on that expense. now i know the usual argument is "that will destroy the market" but frankly i don't think it will. there have been lots of things in eve that could have broken the market and didnt ice being changed, goonies hunting ice miners, ridiculous prices for moon materials i mean every time there is "market breaking" stuff it balances out in 2-3 weeks and there is no reason it couldn't for dust id certainly play it again if i knew i had orbital backup and someone giving me a fair contract and supplying my gear whats a fortune in dust is chicken feed in eve and it wouldn't be case of one over powering the other because you can only have so many players on a dust side and the smallest corp in eve vs the biggest can still keep that group perfectly geared up.

as for valkrye obviously nothing much to say about that but i kinda hope it becomes a option rather than a stand alone game what i mean to say is ok i can fly my abbadon the way i normally do in eve or i can switch to "valkrye" view when i get into my frigate and go nuts and of course that opens the option to the drop ship thing we were always supposed to have in dust.

i guess to sum this up i wish more content would start getting delivered into the game with more options for pilots i mean if i do anything outside incursions right now in eve im doing it for the joy of it not the money and that's kind of sad which is why im pretty much not playing right now apart from plexing and keeping my skill queue going.

again not a flame thread im simply asking peoples opinions i love eve i have been playing for years and i will never truly stop playing *Snip* Please refrain from discussing other (non-EvE/Dust/Valkyrie) games. ISD Ezwal.
we appear to get movies of awesome content and that's about it.


thanks for reading this looking forward to reading

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Can a brother get a TL:DR up in here?

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i guess to sum this up i wish more content would start getting delivered into the game with more options for pilots i mean if i do anything outside incursions right now in eve im doing it for the joy of it not the money and that's kind of sad which is why im pretty much not playing right now apart from plexing and keeping my skill queue going.

again not a flame thread im simply asking peoples opinions i love eve i have been playing for years and i will never truly stop playing but i have a genuine worry that something like star citizen will come out and just outclass us and i am sad to say it the way things are going now i feel there is a real possibility of that happening since we appear to get movies of awesome content and that's about it.

Dafuq???

Themepark content is not what a sandbox game is all about. Whenever I hear people talk about "the future of eve" or anything to that effect, I always cringe because I know it's someone asking for CCP to turn the game into some it's not.



Sweet ****ing Cotton Candy, do you hear yourself? Do you see what you just wrote? "Yeah, I am doing things in the game for fun instead of for money, and that's kind of sad..."

*head explodes*

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And get this. EVE will live or die based on absolutely zero criteria for people like you to keep playing. Themepark content is not what made EVE what it is today, and lack thereof will not be it's death.

Problem discovered.
Go make/partake in some content.

From what I can understand (which is no small feat as your post lacks punctuation and sentence structure)...

- You believe EVE to be stagnating.
This is because you are doing things that are not dynamic by their very nature. And no... PvE can never be completely dynamic. It's a computer. Computers can be studied, recorded, analyzed, experimented with, and... ultimately... "gamed" and published for all to see.
You can add more "DEV created " content... but then players will devour it over the course of a month and get bored again... necessitating more content being created... beginning a never ending cycle that ultimately results in the PvE system collapsing on itself (see: what has happened to old content in World of Warcraft).

What the DEVs are doing right now is creating and re-purposing "tools" and mechanics so that players can create their own content... with, for, and/or against one another. And this has FAR more longevity.

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- You want _______ feature/mechanic because you think it will make things more interesting.
Slow down there. The repercussions of introducing such things have to be considered first. You can't just throw something in and hope for the best.
Remember that EVE players have a notorious/legendary ability to turn game mechanics and features on their head... perverting them in ways that make the rest of the gaming world balk.


tldr: stop only doing Incusions and hoping "new things" will happen. It's like hitting your head against a wall while hoping for a different result (which is, by the way, the very definition of insanity).
Go out and try changing something. If you fail, try something else. If you fail again then figure out a way around what cause you to fail.
GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING!!

I never stated once that content should be added for the sake of something to do.
I believe ring mining would have been a nice edition to the game to balance out moon mining, I was simply using the walk in station bit as a example of how something was not implemented and i find that with a lot of expansions.
I have mined in all areas of eve too and frankly, high sec is the most dangerous. So i would have to disagree there as at least in low and null sec you can see who is going to shoot you in the system.

And I would have to disagree with the fit for tank statement also, because outside a skiff there is no barge in the world you are tanking to survive a couple of destroyers with tech 2 guns. In my experience gankers don't gloat until after they have gotten your ship.
As for the other guy, my point about "if i am doing anything outside of incursions, I am doing it for fun" was: There is no high sec activity i am aware of that gives more isk per hour than that and it would be nice if the other activity could push something a little closer to it.
And please dont reply with "then go to null or lowsec", because the point was 'Incursions are lots of safe easy isk', and I just would like to see some new additions to mix them up a bit.
That is all that i was speaking about.



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You want change, well go on sisi and make something, anything.

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I believe his comment pointing out that your goal is to find the best isk per hour and not the most fun per hour. Try doing something for the joy of it once in awhile and not what you'll get in return. You might actually have a good time!