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Brand new Pilot looking for friendly/helpful corporation or players

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Henanigans Fiontan
Dayman Industries
#1 - 2014-06-11 20:03:19 UTC
As the title says, I'm brand new to EVE Online with a 30 day trial and looking for some help and guidance as I learn to play as well as determine if this is a game I want to continue to play. I'm not new to MMO's, but am definitely new to this one. The idea of EVE intrigues me a lot, but it seems very in depth and somewhat complex and some guidance would be most appreciated.

I'm wondering if there are any corporations full of people that would be willing to assist and provide guidance as well as answer all of my annoying newb questions. A "mentor" of sorts wouldn't be so bad either. :-)

I just got the game, so I'm sure I will need to go through a tutorial first, but I'm sure I will have tons of questions during the tutorial as well as after the tutorial. Any help or pointing in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for taking the time to read my long (and most likely incoherent) post.
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-06-11 20:06:19 UTC
EVE University and Brave Newbies are two large corps which focus on newer players.
Henanigans Fiontan
Dayman Industries
#3 - 2014-06-11 20:09:03 UTC
Awesome. Thank you for the heads up. I'm assuming that's searchable in the game?
Brink Albosa
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-06-11 20:46:47 UTC
The generic answer would be to recommend running the starter tutorial missions.

It took me a while to realize the interface is simply a tool and nothing is really linear so much. Find a player or play style and emulate. "Create your own content"

What do you wanna be?
Henanigans Fiontan
Dayman Industries
#5 - 2014-06-11 20:55:06 UTC
That's kind of where the guidance part comes into play. I've seen there's an option for mining, what are the other options? I'm assuming there's one for pure fighting as well? I feel like the fighting is what would best keep my interest in this game, but also might be one of the more complicated choices and maybe not as fruitful as others.
William Ruben
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-06-11 22:15:28 UTC
Henanigans Fiontan wrote:
That's kind of where the guidance part comes into play. I've seen there's an option for mining, what are the other options? I'm assuming there's one for pure fighting as well? I feel like the fighting is what would best keep my interest in this game, but also might be one of the more complicated choices and maybe not as fruitful as others.

Run all of the tutorials. You have a basic one then will change stations and learn about the various things you can do, including mining, exploration, trading, industry, etc.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#7 - 2014-06-11 23:16:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Welcome aboard OP. All of the above is good advice.

To add to it, the best advice I can give you is to forget everything you learnt in other MMO's and to start with an open mind because here other players are your content, and you are theirs.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

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Unthrown Brick
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-06-11 23:18:45 UTC
E-uni period in my opinion, after that go to brave newbies and learn about how pvp actually is(expect to blow up LOTS of times), and after that, pave your own path somewhere.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-06-12 00:35:39 UTC
Henanigans Fiontan wrote:
As the title says, I'm brand new to EVE Online with a 30 day trial and looking for some help and guidance as I learn to play as well as determine if this is a game I want to continue to play. I'm not new to MMO's, but am definitely new to this one. The idea of EVE intrigues me a lot, but it seems very in depth and somewhat complex and some guidance would be most appreciated.

I'm wondering if there are any corporations full of people that would be willing to assist and provide guidance as well as answer all of my annoying newb questions. A "mentor" of sorts wouldn't be so bad either. :-)

I just got the game, so I'm sure I will need to go through a tutorial first, but I'm sure I will have tons of questions during the tutorial as well as after the tutorial. Any help or pointing in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for taking the time to read my long (and most likely incoherent) post.


Couple of things:

1. Technically nobody is allowed to recruit in any form in this forum, recruitment is restricted to the recruitment part of the forum.
As a trial you won't be able to post anything there but you can look up adverts set up by other corporations.

2. There are some general corps that are generally well accepted by people, things like RvB (Red vs Blue - PvP community), Brave Newbies or EVE University come to mind. But keep in mind there are many many more (and less well known corps around). Take your time finding the one that is right for you.

3. Don't think you NEED a corp to play social, it helps but it's not a MUST. There are plenty of public communities around EVE (chat channels - occasionally with open voice comms etc) that you can hang out with.

4. To help you in the search for a corp, read this forum thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331341&find=unread

5. As you found the forums...ask your questions here. IMO these forums (the New Citizen Q&A) is way better then having a mentor. Why... Because you get feedback from multiple people, so many different views on things or you can verify the answer is true (if 10 people all say the same thing, it's likely true. If you get 10 totally different answers, we are doing a bad job).

6. Forget all you learned in other MMOs. Very very likely it works differently in EVE.

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Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club

Henanigans Fiontan
Dayman Industries
#10 - 2014-06-12 00:58:23 UTC
Thank you everyone for the tips and suggestions. Great info!
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-06-12 01:14:10 UTC
Henanigans Fiontan wrote:
That's kind of where the guidance part comes into play. I've seen there's an option for mining, what are the other options? I'm assuming there's one for pure fighting as well? I feel like the fighting is what would best keep my interest in this game, but also might be one of the more complicated choices and maybe not as fruitful as others.


http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/


To give you an idea what you can do.

Keep in mind: EVE is a sandbox, you create your own content and gameplay.

So, technically, you can do what ever you want (as long as it doesn't breach EULA/ToS rules).

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-06-12 01:15:49 UTC
Unthrown Brick wrote:
E-uni period in my opinion, after that go to brave newbies and learn about how pvp actually is(expect to blow up LOTS of times), and after that, pave your own path somewhere.


Agree, though I have mixed opinions on both EVE-Uni and BNI it's a solid route above.

And while doing that, look into public fleets (RvB Ganked, Sunday Sinners) if you're really interested in PvP.
They are no-politics, no-bullshit, no strings attached PvP.

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Henanigans Fiontan
Dayman Industries
#13 - 2014-06-12 01:20:35 UTC
I am PvP driven in MMO's. That's all I did in SWTOR and WoW. I definitely think PvP is going to be the way I go, but I need to get much better at this game first and clearly have a LOT to learn. I was reading that chart you sent in that URL and wow...I had no idea there were THAT many options! Thanks again for the info.

I'm hopping on in about an hour to finish the tutorial and then...who knows. So many choices. Thanks again.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-06-12 03:40:00 UTC
Henanigans Fiontan wrote:
I am PvP driven in MMO's. That's all I did in SWTOR and WoW. I definitely think PvP is going to be the way I go, but I need to get much better at this game first and clearly have a LOT to learn. I was reading that chart you sent in that URL and wow...I had no idea there were THAT many options! Thanks again for the info.

I'm hopping on in about an hour to finish the tutorial and then...who knows. So many choices. Thanks again.


Okay, will say 1 thing:


Get into PvP ASAP.

If you fall for the common trap of you need "x" mil SP / "y" amount of ISK / fly "z" ship before you can start, you will never be ready.

All it takes to start to PvP, find some people to fly with, fit a frigate with the best guns you can, fit a propulsion module (afterburner or microwarpdrive) and tackle (warp disruptor / warp scrambler).

Sure, you WILL die at first, and do that very very very often.
Sure, you will never be the top damage dealer.

But by doing PvP you will learn from both your mistakes aswel as situations where you are succesful.
You will learn by looking and listening to the others and what they are doing.
If you have questions, after you all are done with the dying (or making other people die), ask them and learn from the answers.
If you get killed by some "*******" in low-sec, contact him and ask in a mature, polite and friendly manner what went wrong and how you can improve yourself. 99.9% of the people, how bad they might look, are good people willing to make you better. Hell, you might even make friends, get invited to join their fleets for some spaceship violence etc.

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Henanigans Fiontan
Dayman Industries
#15 - 2014-06-12 03:54:22 UTC
Really? Interesting. That's not normal for PvP in most MMO's haha. Good to know though. I think I'm going to go through all the specialty missions right after the tutorial and then look into PvP. Does EVE University teach PvP or should I look for a more PvP only corp?
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-06-12 04:18:23 UTC
Henanigans Fiontan wrote:
Really? Interesting. That's not normal for PvP in most MMO's haha. Good to know though. I think I'm going to go through all the specialty missions right after the tutorial and then look into PvP. Does EVE University teach PvP or should I look for a more PvP only corp?


No idea about EVE Uni and their PvP training. I do know.that Agony Unleashed have their public PvP classes. Look them up and see if you can join their next BASIC class that suits your timezone.

As for the weird part of PvP.

Yes, you will need a way to fund it (losses are actual losses. PvP in general is an ISK loss activity).

But amybody cam do it, just scale the stuff you use to your SP amd funds.
I've seen new players (incl. 1 of my alts) join PvP fleets and assist on kills who were less then 2 weeks old.

Also keep in mind that only a certain amount of skills matter for a ship. If Im flying a frigate, all my indy related skills (yes, former carebear here) aswel as any cruiser or battleship skill are "useless". Same for the race, my Amarr frigate skill is "useless" if Im flying my Crow (Caldari Interceptor).

And with how skill levels boost a set % per level if you have all skills at level 4 you are only marginally below an all level 5 trained pilot for way less time invested.

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Solai
Doughfleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#17 - 2014-06-12 10:01:38 UTC
Many would suggest two prominent newbie-groups: E-Uni and Brave Newbies.

However I'd like to point out that where E-Uni is apparently politically neutral, Brave Newbies is very likely not. What this means in practice is that should you join Brave Newbies, there is a fair chance that you will get pigeonholed in which corps and alliances' doors are later open to you, and which are shut. By contrast, if you join a non-political group, seemingly such as Eve University, then you should likely not have any trouble later on joining any corp you wish.

Something to be aware of.
Nick Starkey
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-06-12 11:06:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Nick Starkey
This may also give you an idea what to do in game: http://imgur.com/DJOBpg4

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#19 - 2014-06-12 11:40:11 UTC
Solai wrote:
Many would suggest two prominent newbie-groups: E-Uni and Brave Newbies.

However I'd like to point out that where E-Uni is apparently politically neutral, Brave Newbies is very likely not. What this means in practice is that should you join Brave Newbies, there is a fair chance that you will get pigeonholed in which corps and alliances' doors are later open to you, and which are shut. By contrast, if you join a non-political group, seemingly such as Eve University, then you should likely not have any trouble later on joining any corp you wish.

Something to be aware of.



EVE-Uni are far from neutral too. They are neutral with respect to nullsec alliance politics, but not neutral with respect to highsec.

OP, here's a few activities in EVE you might consider. Tell us what you are interested in, we can then provide more guidance.



1) Fighting against NPCs that get tougher over your career (Incursions/Missions)

2) Infiltrating player corporations with treachery at heart, stealing everything you can, burning everything you can't steal (AWOXing/corp theft)

3) Fighting alongside large fleets of fellow players, defending your space and attacking the space of other players (Nullsec sovereign warfare)

4) Hunting solo or in small groups for players that pose easy targets, stealing from the prey and fighting other predators like yourself (lowsec/nullsec piracy)

5) Declaring wars in highsec against other corporations for profit, revenge, or in search of 'gud fites' (highsec predatory wardecs)

6) Illegally attacking targets of opportunity in highsec, knowing that you can steal more from them than the damage the police will do to you (highsec ganking)

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-06-12 12:02:04 UTC
Solai wrote:
Many would suggest two prominent newbie-groups: E-Uni and Brave Newbies.

However I'd like to point out that where E-Uni is apparently politically neutral, Brave Newbies is very likely not. What this means in practice is that should you join Brave Newbies, there is a fair chance that you will get pigeonholed in which corps and alliances' doors are later open to you, and which are shut. By contrast, if you join a non-political group, seemingly such as Eve University, then you should likely not have any trouble later on joining any corp you wish.

Something to be aware of.

i'm not sure the brave newbies part is true, especially if your corp history clearly shows that you joined as an *actual* newbie. sure, brave collective is pushing for nullsec and making enemies, but even the most paranoid CEO will not scoff at poaching one of their former members.

as for making ISK to fund your PVP: there are a lot of options, most of which you will find in the charts that were linked above. each of the "professions" is somewhat different, but they all can get boring (especially if you keep doing them for a long time). if you have a stable real life income, consider buying a PLEX from CCP then selling it in jita for ~700m ISK. this ISK injection can easily get you through a month of PVP, as long as you avoid flying expensive ships (which you should do anyway).

I should buy an Ishtar.

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