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Six years of Caldari Prime liberation from Gallentean occupation.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2014-06-10 21:19:12 UTC
As he orchestrates the return of Arcurio to the State, he might have trouble understanding why he needs to drink the Tea.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-06-10 21:22:09 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Kraid, Heth was never a hero, and few of the things he did were laudable.

At first, you simply could not know, that Tibus Heth and speak about him like a ordinary gallentean ignorant:
* saved a regular worker from under gunfire, while everyone else were hiding behind barricades;
* while being a megacorporate CEO himself led ground attack against gallentean occupants on Caldari Prime.

On other hand, I think it would be hard even for you to miss these facts being for so long in this media. Taking your previous actions against Caldari People, when you were screaming "Kill all Caldari", you obviously want to derange everything good and strong Caldari have.

But your time is gone, Gallentean. Caldari are strong now, and you can't change it. Stop hanging on your deluded past, when Federation seemed to be stronger and "better" than us.

We have returned to Caldari Prime. And we will stay.

Glory to the State!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-06-11 06:48:14 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Kraid, Heth was never a hero, and few of the things he did were laudable.

At first, you simply could not know, that Tibus Heth and speak about him like a ordinary gallentean ignorant:
* saved a regular worker from under gunfire, while everyone else were hiding behind barricades;
* while being a megacorporate CEO himself led ground attack against gallentean occupants on Caldari Prime.


I can respect the former. The latter is pure showmanship designed to dazzle people who don't think things through enough. It seems to have worked.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-06-11 06:48:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Besides. the job of a megacorporate CEO is to look after his megacorporation, not to drive military MTACs, nor to nose-dive it into the financial dirt via war embezzlement and attempts to nationalise the corporate structure of the State.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#25 - 2014-06-11 07:09:08 UTC
Not only showmanship. It's dereliction of duty and putting everyone you're responsible for at unnecessary risk. I'd like to see the faces of my employees should I mid-combat decide to decant and start working with the turret crew. Or maybe forgo my administrative work at the manufactorums and grab a welder. Ignoring the market interfaces for driving a cargo rig at the freighter's dock.

The whole thing would collapse, and I'm not even waging a war.

I wonder how many people died keeping the man alive on homeworld after that ludicrous jump? I wonder what'd happen if one stray AT round hit the sweet spot? There are obviously structures and emergency protocols in place for these things, but they're named emergency protocols for a reason.

I've been outspoken about my admiration for his achievements but even with the embezzlement and damage he tried to do to our corporate structure, that moment in that MTAC is a shining crown on top of a mountain of sheer stupid.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2014-06-11 07:38:51 UTC
Please ignore Kim and continue the discussion on the impact of Heth's action. That is far more educational and less headache-inducing.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-06-11 12:06:39 UTC
Please ignore primitive minmatar tribals, who are poking their jaijii noses into Caldari business without contributing anything of value.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Eli Hakomairos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-06-11 12:22:56 UTC
Heth was a Madman, we are better for his loss. Mens Reppola, The CEO of Ishikune, has done wonders in working to broker peaceful relations within the federation, and has been instrumental in securing exchanges of caldari land without having to spill caldari blood for what is rightfully ours. while there is no longer an executor position, if there were Mens would certainly be the leader the state deserves.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-06-11 12:38:09 UTC
Eli Hakomairos wrote:
Heth was a Madman, we are better for his loss.

Have you just came here to insult greatest Caldari hero?
Probably it is *so fun* screaming at now dead peoples of authority, who attained so much, who were loved by so many people, and who did so much good for the State, while all you can do is just yell at them groundless insults.

Eli Hakomairos wrote:
Mens Reppola, The CEO of Ishikune, has done wonders in working to broker peaceful relations within the federation, and has been instrumental in securing exchanges of caldari land without having to spill caldari blood for what is rightfully ours. while there is no longer an executor position, if there were Mens would certainly be the leader the state deserves.

For last six years, after Gairushi's death, all the time Reppola was leading Ishukone, the corporation was opposing all other Caldari megacorporations. You are telling about making peace with Federation, but at the same time they were growing hostilities with the State.

I can see, that you is another of traitors, who would prefer to stay with gallenteans, instead of respecting Caldari history, culture, values and, most important of all, Caldari peoples.

Let your ancestors's spirits and your descendants (if there will be any) forever condemn your name.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#30 - 2014-06-11 12:39:17 UTC
Those who reject Tibus Heth may find it difficult in Upper Hell, the Hell of the Righteous Non-Chosen, the place where there is to be no pain and no suffering, for when God showed me the levels of Hell, I saw Tibus Heth leading the Caldari of Upper Hell to many great feats and wonders. Perhaps those who reject Tibus Heth will be doomed to the lower Hells, the places where there are no Righteous and God does not spare the pain and the suffering.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#31 - 2014-06-11 15:27:16 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Those who reject Tibus Heth may find it difficult in Upper Hell, the Hell of the Righteous Non-Chosen, the place where there is to be no pain and no suffering, for when God showed me the levels of Hell, I saw Tibus Heth leading the Caldari of Upper Hell to many great feats and wonders. Perhaps those who reject Tibus Heth will be doomed to the lower Hells, the places where there are no Righteous and God does not spare the pain and the suffering.


No offence, but I didn't let Tibus Heth tell me how to be Caldari and he, at least, was Caldari himself.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#32 - 2014-06-11 16:15:02 UTC
Heth confirmed a Glorious Leader of the Afterlife. If that's not a prime motivation to fund proper immortality research, I don't know what is.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
Eli Hakomairos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-06-11 19:27:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Eli Hakomairos
Diana Kim wrote:
Eli Hakomairos wrote:
Heth was a Madman, we are better for his loss.

Have you just came here to insult greatest Caldari hero?
Probably it is *so fun* screaming at now dead peoples of authority, who attained so much, who were loved by so many people, and who did so much good for the State, while all you can do is just yell at them groundless insults.

Eli Hakomairos wrote:
Mens Reppola, The CEO of Ishikune, has done wonders in working to broker peaceful relations within the federation, and has been instrumental in securing exchanges of caldari land without having to spill caldari blood for what is rightfully ours. while there is no longer an executor position, if there were Mens would certainly be the leader the state deserves.

For last six years, after Gairushi's death, all the time Reppola was leading Ishukone, the corporation was opposing all other Caldari megacorporations. You are telling about making peace with Federation, but at the same time they were growing hostilities with the State.

I can see, that you is another of traitors, who would prefer to stay with gallenteans, instead of respecting Caldari history, culture, values and, most important of all, Caldari peoples.

Let your ancestors's spirits and your descendants (if there will be any) forever condemn your name.


I speak of what he became, Diana, not what he used to be. Heth gave back power to the State, yes, and i respect him for it, but the last few years under him turned us into a dictatorship where showing anit-provist views would see you disappear.

And how Dare you even begin to suggest i would be happy living with the federation! I merely claim Reppola to be a man worthy of being an executor. gaining relations with the federation is far from the worst thing we could do, after all the blood that has been spilt. No, i will never forgive them for the Shiigeru, or that bastard, Noir. But pointless conflict will not gain the state what it needs.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-06-11 20:27:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Eli Hakomairos wrote:

I speak of what he became, Diana, not what he used to be. Heth gave back power to the State, yes, and i respect him for it, but the last few years under him turned us into a dictatorship where showing anit-provist views would see you disappear.

"Dictatorship"?!
This is what gallenteans and their pets would say. Tibus Heth tried to unite all Caldari to repel gallentean threat once and forever, but gallentean propaganda named him a "dictator" for this.
As for anti-provists views, I would myself make these people disappear with my bare hands.


Eli Hakomairos wrote:
And how Dare you even begin to suggest i would be happy living with the federation! I merely claim Reppola to be a man worthy of being an executor. gaining relations with the federation is far from the worst thing we could do, after all the blood that has been spilt. No, i will never forgive them for the Shiigeru, or that bastard, Noir. But pointless conflict will not gain the state what it needs.

And what else should I suggest, if you was insulting the greatest Caldari hero, who was defending Caldari from Gallenteans.
When you was praising a spineless man, who was licking boots of gallentean senate, who was trying to make a peace with Federation on his behalf, and distancing himself instead from the rest of the State?..

As for pointless conflict, one wise man has said, that the fastest way to end the war is to surrender.
Only weaklings and traitors can propose peace with Federation now, while they still occupy half of Caldari Prime and several of Caldari worlds in Black Rise.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Eli Hakomairos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2014-06-12 18:49:14 UTC
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#36 - 2014-06-12 21:37:57 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Please ignore Kim and continue the discussion on the impact of Heth's action. That is far more educational and less headache-inducing.


You can probably learn all you need to know in that new NOH satire - Forklift Driver Heth: A Workplace Safety Guide. He just seems to never get it right. But it's through their mistakes we learn how to create a better workplace.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2014-06-13 03:37:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Please ignore Kim and continue the discussion on the impact of Heth's action. That is far more educational and less headache-inducing.


You can probably learn all you need to know in that new NOH satire - Forklift Driver Heth: A Workplace Safety Guide. He just seems to never get it right. But it's through their mistakes we learn how to create a better workplace.


If I recall it correctly, the correct title is - MTAC Operator Heth: A Workplace Safety Guide. It is also quite contradictory to what I know of Heth's MTAC-operating skills (I cannot say if this is common knowledge). What footages of the capture of Caldari Prime showed Heth to be very proficient with the operation of the MTAC.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#38 - 2014-06-13 03:54:31 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Please ignore Kim and continue the discussion on the impact of Heth's action. That is far more educational and less headache-inducing.


You can probably learn all you need to know in that new NOH satire - Forklift Driver Heth: A Workplace Safety Guide. He just seems to never get it right. But it's through their mistakes we learn how to create a better workplace.


If I recall it correctly, the correct title is - MTAC Operator Heth: A Workplace Safety Guide. It is also quite contradictory to what I know of Heth's MTAC-operating skills (I cannot say if this is common knowledge). What footages of the capture of Caldari Prime showed Heth to be very proficient with the operation of the MTAC.


That's the nature of satire - to parody their incompetence with heavy machinery, as the metaphor for their incompetence and failures in leadership.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2014-06-13 04:51:33 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Please ignore Kim and continue the discussion on the impact of Heth's action. That is far more educational and less headache-inducing.


You can probably learn all you need to know in that new NOH satire - Forklift Driver Heth: A Workplace Safety Guide. He just seems to never get it right. But it's through their mistakes we learn how to create a better workplace.


If I recall it correctly, the correct title is - MTAC Operator Heth: A Workplace Safety Guide. It is also quite contradictory to what I know of Heth's MTAC-operating skills (I cannot say if this is common knowledge). What footages of the capture of Caldari Prime showed Heth to be very proficient with the operation of the MTAC.


That's the nature of satire - to parody their incompetence with heavy machinery, as the metaphor for their incompetence and failures in leadership.


I got to say that one time Heth accidentally loosing the diamond-tipped circular saw at one of his unfortunate colleagues by mis-operating the MTAC somehow is pretty amusing.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#40 - 2014-06-13 13:42:09 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Please ignore Kim and continue the discussion on the impact of Heth's action. That is far more educational and less headache-inducing.


You can probably learn all you need to know in that new NOH satire - Forklift Driver Heth: A Workplace Safety Guide. He just seems to never get it right. But it's through their mistakes we learn how to create a better workplace.


If I recall it correctly, the correct title is - MTAC Operator Heth: A Workplace Safety Guide. It is also quite contradictory to what I know of Heth's MTAC-operating skills (I cannot say if this is common knowledge). What footages of the capture of Caldari Prime showed Heth to be very proficient with the operation of the MTAC.


That's the nature of satire - to parody their incompetence with heavy machinery, as the metaphor for their incompetence and failures in leadership.


I got to say that one time Heth accidentally loosing the diamond-tipped circular saw at one of his unfortunate colleagues by mis-operating the MTAC somehow is pretty amusing.

My favourite parts were his searches for Gallentean agents in the workplace with his coworker, Jean-Phillipe. They never fiind one!

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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