Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm not going to read all the input from players on this because I really don't want to get depressed.

Highseccers and small and individual corporations will likely use smaller POSes, yes, but these groups will be getting thousands of new moons with Crius. I really think the stated reason of fear of ice devaluation due to smaller POSes is premature. Nullsec POSes are usually large for defensive purposes, and defense will be the primary consideration for POS size.

Let things happen, then make adjustments.

Also, null sec industry will rely on JFs, and the cost of their use will go up, thereby removing some of the benefit of doing industry in null sec that are supposed to be created by Crius.

Also, any changes designed to create ice demand should consider ice supply. I mine ice in high sec. The ice tends to deplete too quickly. I also do some moon mining in low sec. I notice when I am there that all the ice fields are basically empty. Also, I have toons in a CFC null sec alliance, and I notice that the ice fields in our space are almost always empty.

I think the bigger factor than smaller POSes will be the effect of an updated Rorqual on low sec and null sec mining. If the Rorqual update allows more mining to happen in low and null, then ice supply will increase. In that case it might warrant creating an increased demand. If the Rorqual update fails to change the low and null mining dynamics, I highly doubt the changes in POS sizes will result in market disturbance.

Let the other changes go live and make ice adjustments with Crius 1.5 or something.

Any plans on adding implants to reduce fuel usage?

Boooooo!

No Just No

Why make stuff that is already expencive more expencive!

I say no!

Fozzie, take note. This is the responsible way of doing things. You cannot definitively say where the isotope market is going to be after the patch, so trying to make compensatory changes is foolish.

Make the other industry changes, and if isotope costs drop too much THEN increase jump drive consumption. Not before.

I remember unsubbing just when the drone region nerf hit. I subbed nearly a year later, and the change in market was huge. Sure, maybe some people liked what happened in Eve over the course of the year, but I'm convinced that nerfs impact on the mineral market is very likely why I came back to find most ships were now twice the price they were when I left.

So now with fuel prices increasing, doubled with the fact that jf cargoholds decreased...well, ships are about to get a whole lot more expensive.

Which means people are less willing to use and risk them in combat. Which mean less explosions. Not good.

no idea how this will effect the so called "power Projection" but i kinda like the idea as it will drive up the inflation which means more profit :)

i dont bother if caps need 50% more fuel its just another bn every month and i doubt noone of the older players really care nor does big alliances as they are loaded with cash (feel free to flame on it but we have worked hard enough to have a healthy wallet and yes i did mine myself as a noob like hell to afford the learning skillbooks as there was no plex you could cash in to buy all ya want like you can do nowdays))

change for younger players or those not loaded with cash?

- not really any change for them ... they did mine to supply the 0.0 with minerals and topes and now they will continue doing same as they can just compress themself the ore / ice (yes you may flame on that one too, but every game consists of a grind at the beginning even the game called reallife you cant just get born and buy 50 appartment blocks without grinding for your first one)

changes for those living at the arse of nowhere?

- no idea really but whoever lives out there is not really depending on imports from empire its just cheaper and easier, i have lived at the arse of nowhere and there were enough indy guys producing the stuff needed. importing stuff was cheaper then buying local products because those manufacturing sold stuff at a 50% or 100% markup or more. even if alliances gave strict 25% max markup, most didnt keep within that range because greed is a beautiful thing. if the local production gets sorted and yes also tech II is possible, then theres no need to import all n everything from empire. maybe this is a chance to start building up a working infrastructure to supply itself. sure topes have to be imported but with the topes being only 0.1 m3 the increase in cost of transport is zer0.


all in all i dont see a damn thing that will change ... indy boost + the exhumer boost just happend and the refining changes / jumpdrive changes will equal out each other ... and those with caps including the big coalitions will still enjoy jumping around not bothering with the extra few bucks it costs to move the shiny :)


plenty changes in the game that doesnt change a damn thing but creating a "little" inflation which is good to make more profit like iRL and more lads buying plex for $_$ because they havnt a clue how to make money.

well done at least someone proved, that he did something for the money he gets paid and may keep his job
the player base doesnt get pissed off because nothin is changing but a big love for 0.0 industrials as a bonus
ccp is happy because they have had a "new" expansion and more $_$ being generated by selling PLEX.

feel free to flame ... just my 50 cent on this.

This.

Then fleets would simply bring a jump freighter full of Helitopes to fuel their Archon blob. Limiting fuel isn't going to change the way power is projected in EVE. At least not with normal capitals (it might affect Titan bridging, but that would have an adverse effect on small alliances compared to larger alliances)

The preemptive fuel change is illogical given the new design plan of a patch every 6 weeks, if fuel prices fall off the map or skyrocket, the changes can be made either in the 1.1 patch, or the next planned cycle.

Any word on this? You still planning on going through with this awful idea?