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First, this was mis-attributed to me. Honest mistake, but I don't want to take credit for someone else's comment.

Second, yes, I think BPO vs. BPC is necessary. I would also like an option for filtering out perfect ME and/or perfect TE blueprints so I can easily find what still needs researching. Also I would really recommend stacking items of identical statistics (i.e. item, type, ME, TE, and location) in the UI. The advantage being that it will probably reduce the number of blueprints in the stack by a huge factor. Perhaps you could add a column or show a number in the lower right of the BP icon. It wouldn't even need to be accurate past a certain point. E.g. it could just say 100+ at that point. Others may disagree on that last point.

I concur that it would be nice if the reprocessing icon where reminiscent of the industry icon, but not quite so similar.

It's because waste is bad (-1) and indicated as extra cost (+X%). So it's -1 * +X = -X. Then comes the "reduction" with +10%. This leads to -X * +10% = -X*1.1. Errhm wait... mhh. I'm lost know

EDIT: Wait. I think I have it know. Reduction is good. Good == positive == +. It's like reducing your speed by 10%. X kph * 0.9.. mhh thats not +10%....

By now they'd be better of just naming it the mother-of-generics "processing", and boot the re- altogether! Just look at all the confusion over ore, scrap, recycling.

Processing works for anything. Including undesirable Amarr tourists...

Setting tax on outposts still needs to be done. We will have it in for the Crius release.

I have a few things:

- i often use eve with multiple clients, all of them in 1024x768 window mode, the window is simply too big for that
- ME/TE are shown as positive values. that feels wrong. they reduce things, so they should be negative
- the filter options for teams are lacking, at the very least, allow filtering for ME/TE
- the bidding thing for teams isn't that great, the search requires confirmation via enter.
- i was trying to find out which teams i am bidding for right now. could not find that info

something different:

- my control tower BPOs have disappeared

Before I start, i'm kind of a semi-professional industrialist, using production and invention fairly often. God, it's such a clickfest! Some (or rather, most) of my points have already been mentioned in other posts, nevertheless i want to let you know what concerns me the most about the new interface.
Let's go!

(1)
I think it would be a good idea to have 2 modes... one "Experimental Mode" where you see all your blueprints everywhere, that lets you play with the numbers (pretty much what we have now), and a "Production Mode" that is for real use. I'd imagine it only shows the blueprints you can actually use from your current position considering skills AND facilities at the current location, showing tooltips about what can and can't be done when hovering over the activity symbol (e.g. you can produce from this blueprint as you have Supply Chain Management 5, but won't let you invent as you only have Scientific Networking 2). When doing that, make the activity symbol red if you don't have the necessary skills / no facilities at the blueprint location.

(2)
A "Personal Assets"-like blueprint location categorization would be really helpful to see where a blueprint actually is (especially in systems with multiple stations AND long names)

(3)
Pretty please, let us stack copies that share the same stats. I guess it's a major code change, but it will save SO MUCH space and clicking, especially when inventing. Also, if you do this, let us select how many of the stack to use on the current jobs. Example: "Invent 5 of my 20 Hobgoblin I BPC stack". Could also be a wheel-like thingy like you did in the central blueprint slot, but i think an input box would suffice.
Come to think about it, a counter on how many BPC's with the same stats are in the same location would already be a great help and much less of a code change, i guess.
On the other hand, if these changes about how inventions works go through, i'd guess after a while the overall number of BPC's will go down quite a lot, as you can get multiple (in fact, hundreds) of T2 BPC's from a single max-run T1 BPC, so people won't usually have more than 20-30 max-run copies of the same BPO, which would be a little more manageable (but still a scroll-heavy thing if you produce many things)

(4)
It'd be great to have an overall choice of "Fancy" for the people only using industry once in a while, or "Fast" for the people who make a living with industry. "Fast" including tables instead of icons, more filtering options, etc.
But at least show the name of items next to their icons. I can't tell apart minerals by their icons, and hovering over them is tedious. Also, if you click a blueprint, then scroll away from that blueprint in the selection area, you have no indication of what that blueprint is other than the symbol in the central slot. This is annoying, especially when it comes to ammo blueprints, which i imagine some vision-impaired players won't be able to tell apart.
To top it off, while everything in there has a tooltip, the most central thing in the industry UI, the blueprint in question, does not have one.

(5)
Let's pretend you're a noob. You see an hourglass with "+20%" written next to it. So, 20% more time, right? Well, it means the opposite.
Make it say "-20%" (and accordingly change "Time Efficiency" to "Time Needed" or something along that line) and it's perfectly clear what it means.

(6)
The "required skills" icon below the central blueprint slot really looks like something interactable. This might be confusing and unintuitive to some people when all it does is showing a tooltip. Maybe try choosing something more decent? Or even just leave out the "brackets" surrounding the green symbol, that might already do the trick.

(7)
It says "job runs" when researching, and i feel it should be something along the lines of "levels to research". It even says "levels remaining" over the blueprint slot. "Job runs" might again be confusing to some.

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The run selection wheel changes quite rapidly when hovering the mouse on the central blueprint slot. As mentioned before, this is annoying and i propose a "dead zone" around the slot itself.
Furthermore, i think on BPO's the run selection wheel should scale to the maximum number of runs possible in a single job until it hits the time limit.

(9)
A thing i DO like is the clear display of how many jobs you have running. Sadly, the interface denies me starting any actual jobs to test it out (insufficient funds bug), but it still is a huge improvement over clicking through 11 production jobs only to get a mere info box saying "that last one clickfest you did there was totally unnecessary". I hope there is another clear visual effect when you've actually reached the maximum jobs (such as the start button turning red).


That may have sounded harsh in some points, but i want to say you did an amazing job. Even in it's current state, it's better than the old interface. Keep up the good work!

Also, if you haven't noticed, english isn't my primary language, so please excuse any spelling errors or grammatical mistakes.

Mentioned in known issues, we have some performance optimization work to do so the 10k+ blueprints users don't have a terrible experience. We want you guys to have fast / filterable access to all of your blueprint data.

I very like that when having a manufacturing (for example) job active in UI and going into bidding on a team I have all non affecting bonuses grayed out, but I would love to be able to just sort the affecting teams to the top of the list

Also I would like to be able to have more filters on team specialization when bodding (say i'm looking for Cruiser, Heavy Interdictor specialist)

Other folks done a good job outlining what filters should and should not do.

My suggestion is that the initial window opening start with the "filter all" as the default. It is the first tab afterall.
In this way I do not have to watch my poor compie have a seizure whenever I open the Industry window and load up my universal BPO/BPC supply. We should still retain the option to see that level of detail, but only if we request it/set filters appropriately.

On the industry window -- When inventing a T2 BPC, there is an hourglass and a diamond symbol for time and material efficiency percentages for the BPC outcome. Is there a way to include what the expected ME, TE and Runs of the Output BPC will be in that window. That other information is ok, but it is sort of obnoxious. I would prefer a way to tell immediately that I have not accidently chosen the wrong decryptor, and to know what ME/TE/Runs I can expect as the result of a successful invention.