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Apologies if this is answered already, I'm a page behind.

Will we have the ability to set the tax rate on job install costs at POS's as well? I'm not sure if that just applied to outposts or not.

Would REALLY like to have this

Thank for pointing it out, I hadn't seen it referred to in any of the dev posts.

It looks good, but I'd sure like to see it have more capacity then 1m m3

Is their some reason it has to be anchored in a system with less then .4? Should be able to anchor in .1-.4 I would think. (I can't find one to test with) I noticed the intensive array requires less then .449

This., I've already bought the skill book. I'm just waiting.
And wishing.
And hopin', and dreamin'...

Having one part of your corporation able to tax another part of it is actually incredibly useful for implementing separation of duties within a corporation.

For example, under the current system you can nominate your starbase maintenance team to use the master wallet for all starbase expenses. The starbase team then sets their desired slot fees based on running costs of the starbase.

A different wallet division is set up for use by the blueprint copying team. The blueprint copying team places their jobs into the starbase lab arrays, and the appropriate slot fees are automatically deducted from the blueprint copying wallet division and paid into the master wallet division.

When the starbase maintenance team needs to buy more fuel, they are able to use the slot fees that have accumulated in the master wallet to do so. It is then very easy to see whether the takings are sufficient to run the starbase or not, and to manage the funding of the starbase separately from the profitability of the blueprint copying.

Without the ability to set taxes at a starbase, maintaining this separation of duties would require a significant amount of manual accounting work to calculate the appropriate apportionment of starbase operating costs and manually transfer the appropriate amounts of ISK between wallet divisions.

I will talk about this use case with the team. Thanks for the feedback.

POS code is creepy and messy. Do not speak of it.

I'm willing to forgive the lack of interface or massive updating surrounding POS's in the knowledge that their overhaul is actually in the pipeline and that wasting time on it now is probably not best idea.

Sounds like to much of an edge case to me

The Thukker Component Array can only be anchored in space with security greater than 0.1.

You mean either greater than OR EQUAL TO 0.1, or greater than 0.0. Otherwise you can't anchor this thing in much of lowsec.

It's not really that much of an edge case. In current terms, it'd be done by putting an actual cost on starbase line usage, having the indie guys have access to say wallet 7, they put in the money for their job only (so nothing to be stolen) and the line is paid for, dumping into master wallet.

Part of the reason this is not so commonly done currently is the effort required to get a pos up and relative lack of benefits to the small fry industrialist to work out of a corp POS.

With the tax able to be set to zero anyway, the fact that some people would used it, even at your "edge case" derision, means that it is somewhat worthwhile implementing as it would have no negative effect on those who don't use the taxation.

POS is a corp asset, industry is a player activity. There's got to be some upward income to (help) pay for the starbase.

I guess it might be "edge use" if the majority of POS's are run by one man corps....
If a corporation has a POS to provide industry benifits (bonuses they can not recieve in an NPC station) to its members, that asset and it fuel must be paid for. I much prefer that people who use a service pay, for that service. The easiest way to do that at a POS would be to tax the job install costs the same way it will happen at NPC stations.

Post patch when you install a job at an NPC station you will pay a "labor cost", plus a 10% tax to the NPC corp on that cost. I'm asking that a player corp be able to set a custom tax rate and collect that same tax. This would provide a mechanic for those who use the POS to cover its own costs, using a mechanic that will ALREADY exist in game.

I realize that POS code is a disaster, but it seems to me this would happen as part of the indusrty UI, and should be a simple thing to code.

This was discussed in the feedback thread for the indusrty Dev blog and it was implied by Dev responce that it would be added if time allowed. I was under the impression that the six week push back was to allow time to provide for "features" such as this.

Without this, when corp members flock to the POS to take advantage of the material cost reductions for manufacturing, lack of the 10% NPC job install tax and faster research / copying with unlimited slots... Someone is going to have to create another spreadsheet and then play "bill collector" to get ISK or fuel blocks from people who are using the asset.

Would be SO NICE if CCP would provide the ability in game so I will not have to do in Eve a job I would not want in reality.