Assembly Hall

I believe EVE needs a judiciary committee (hereafter refereed to as "the committee") to help facilitate certain issues.

Issues the committee can address:

Piracy.
Scammers.
CSM dissatisfaction.

How:

Piracy at the moment is quite rampant throughout EVE, not that this is a bad thing but there are few, if any, serious anti-piracy corporations. None that I know of. The committee could act as a middleman for corporate/alliance wars, especially between "anti-piracy" and "piracy" corps. The committee should be given a budget, with which to place bounties on large scale piracy and null/wormhole sec corporations which subvert the empires. By placing a bounty on a corporation anti-piracy corps can have defined targets, with bounty being awarded based on the pirate players corporate rank.

Scammers are also a dime a dozen. I believe the committee should be allowed to punish serious scammers or corporate espionage, either through bounty as mentioned before or by flagging players as wanted. I'm uneasy as to whether being flagged would allow any pilot to attack them without security loss, only anti-pirate corporations or just as a flag for people who want to get even if you see them in low/nullsec.

CSM dissatisfaction and "vote rigging".
And now to the main port of call for what I initially thought of the committee for. The committee should be able to impeach and dissolve CSM's if player dissatisfaction becomes exceptionally high. They should also oversee the voting process and be able to nullify votes (such as an alt voting for the main, all of a corporation voting for their members [because they are forced or rewarded in some way]). This would need to have a strict set of rules laid out with which the committee can engage within. However, all things must eventually become decisions of the players in my opinion. A pass vote in the committee to impeach a certain member of the CSM should not necessarily immediately impeach the CSM member, rather open the vote to the whole community to remove them. Again the vote process would be overseen by the committee to stop corporate and alliance voting within.

This would force CSM candidates to stick by their mandates.

Anyway, this is just an idea I've had and would welcome suggestions and feedback.

And yes, I am a new player, however for everyone out there who keeps saying we need new player retention, this means we need new player involvement so I'm taking the first step to moving into a political career within EVE.

Thankyou for your time,

I would also hope that this idea would give the CSM more legitimacy and therefore more power.

Thanks for the constructive criticism there. No wonder you have no new player retention.

The problem is that new players who don't really understand how Eve works post stupid ideas and then get upset when older and more experienced players tell them that it's a stupid idea.

If you don't want to get called out on stupid ideas, don't post them. There are two ways to deal with the situation:
1. Toughen up. If you post stupid ideas, they will get torn down and laughed at. End of story. Either accept that fact or ragequit.
2. Wait, learn how Eve works and what is and isn't an intelligent idea, and then don't post stupid ideas.

Eve is not about people holding each others hands and being nice because you're a noob. Eve has a system of consequences and rewards; if you do something stupid, you will pay for it. If that's not your cup of tea, there are plenty of other MMOs out there that are much more willing to cater to people's feelings. You're more than welcome to play Eve, but don't complain because a stupid idea of yours got torn down, c'est la vie.

I had thought this thing about the "CSM rigged voting" was put to bed...

It's like this: Do you complain when a politician wins every time becuase he's from a very large city and that city always votes for him? Yes, this doesn't always happen, but the point is people are going to vote for who they know. If the rest of Eve doesn't vote at all, that's not anyone's problem but theirs. The CSM represents the voting (and thus politically active) playerbase, not the whole playerbase. It was never meant to, because in order to do so they would have to make it so that you could not log in without voting for someone, and even then people would just vote randomly most of the time.

And in terms of anti-piracy corps, they do exist. There are quite a few out there. They just don't form alliances because then pirates can see them coming (they all communicate with each other doncha know).

I've been on quite a few anti-pirate roams, and we've actually had a lot of trouble keeping the bait and scouts mixed up so the pirates don't get wise. I've seen times when we've held the fleet 2 jumps out, jumped a single drake into a gate camp and the pirates all warped off before he even loaded grid.

Thirdly, griefing is not a problem in this game. It's legitimate game mechanics at work, and there are multiple ways around it. Don't want to be war-deced? stay in an NPC corp. Don't want to be scammed? Don't read local. Don't want to be suicide ganked? Don't fly where they do. It's actually quite simple. Eve is about risk vs reward, and a lot of people keep forgetting that.

Piracy and scamming are completely in-game and no official committee should interfere. Just make an anti-pirate corporation if you feel the need.

CSMs last only one year. Wait it out.

If you want to ***** about piracy and scamming in-game.

Then I want the right to ban anyone in the game without restraint.


Your idea is just that...the ability to punish people without restraint.

EVE Onlin is a world where scamming is a legiitmate business...so is piracey..theft..lying....and anything else in-between.

If you can't handle it...then please be kind enough to "get out"


Like I said...you want to change the game to that degree? Then I want you banned.

why you ask?

Simple.... the same reason you want to punish pirates and scammers.

Thankyou for the feedback everyone, and to clarify I don't think the committee should be able to just interfere with any pirate or scammer. Only huge scale corporations who actively pursue such nefarious means to hurt the player base. I've been killed in PvP before, lost the most expensive ship I owned and I couldn't afford to replace it at this point. I was tempted to quit EVE, but you've gotta keep on fighting. So while I understand this is how you guys have played the game for the past eight years, I think the addition of an idea like this would increase legitimate and new-player PvP options by allowing serious anti-pirate corporations to be formed. If being able to interfere with scammers is something you all don't agree with that's easily fixed, just remove the paragraph.

Thanks everyone,

I think everyone understands your viewpoint. Not completely sure what "readnig" means though. Unless you have something concrete and constructive to offer you no longer need to post. Thankyou.

First off let me say thankyou for a constructive response. I understand EVE is a player versus player game and have no intention of trying to change that. And in no way am I trying to limit these activities, in fact, I believe my idea could even help to bolster membership in these areas. By placing bounty on whole corporations you invariably increase PvP activity against them, a true pirate corporation shouldn't be afraid of bureaucrats and I believe a more realistic system of government inside EVE could only help an otherwise extremely in depth game.