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Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-06-10 23:21:32 UTC
Evening, oh wise and wrothful community.

So Kronos is out and I'm exploring to my hearts content.

Had a lovely roam through some wormholes into various 0.0 regions. Wicked Creek, Providence, Catch, Curse, etc.

Didn't find a single data or relic site in 30+ systems. Just wormholes and combat sites. For that matter, barely saw a capsuleer. Although did have some fun dodging some gatecamps and roaming gangs here and there.

Is right after DT the only viable time to do solo Explo now?

Does nothing ever respawn? Wouldn't it be fun if a completed data/relic site sets off a random timer between X and Y hours for the site to respawn in a random location in system? Just so the solitary misty eyed Space Satchel carrying indy jones wannabe explorers have ANYTHING to do at all?

I dabble in emergent (made 300m off it the other day saving a lost soul in Wspace), but in 0.0 nobody even responds to local or direct chat requests for sales of WH locations, combat sites, etc. Perhaps all of them station spinning or AFK?

0.0 make me sad. So empty. Much space. What waste.
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2014-06-10 23:23:28 UTC
Other players got there before you. You should come to syndicate, lots of relic and data sites here.

The Coreli Corporation is recruiting.
Felicity Project
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-06-10 23:47:17 UTC
Too many dangerous afk cloakers in null, that's why you barely see anybody.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4 - 2014-06-10 23:49:15 UTC
You do realize people live there, right?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Solecist Project
#5 - 2014-06-11 00:09:48 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You do realize people live there, right?

Are you sure? I thought afk cloakers prevent people from playing in Null?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-06-11 00:20:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentamon
posting in stealth nerf afk cloaking thread

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Marsha Mallow
#7 - 2014-06-11 00:28:49 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You do realize people live there, right?

Are you sure? I thought afk cloakers prevent people from playing in Null?

I'm sure we can talk about your buttocks again.

Just in case nobody has seen them.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Amenity Project
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-06-11 00:52:33 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You do realize people live there, right?

Are you sure? I thought afk cloakers prevent people from playing in Null?

I'm sure we can talk about your buttocks again.

Just in case nobody has seen them.

lol somebody has issues.

Instead of being ... you ... you could try being actually usefull?

Where are all the people that should live in NullSec?
Those who conquered it. Why don't they live there?
If they did, the whole afk cloaking bullshit wouldn't even be an issue.

Instead, systems are being rented to farmers
who can easily be forced into submission ...
... simply by doing nothing.


So... why not, instead of being ... you ...
... you answer the questions that are related to the topic?


Thanks! :D
Amenity Project
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-06-11 00:56:18 UTC
Quote:

I dabble in emergent (made 300m off it the other day saving a lost soul in Wspace), but in 0.0 nobody even responds to local or direct chat requests for sales of WH locations, combat sites, etc.
Just like carebears in highsec.

Damn, what a coincidence! O:
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-06-11 07:47:32 UTC
All shennanigans aside, most of the 0.0 I passed through yesterday had 1 other person in local. Who was never on any gate. could not be found in centre of the system on D.

So I'm assuming here that it's become fashionable to have an Alt AFK cloaker in every null system or something? Fine, don't really care TBH, I just pass through these systems. But stating that 'people' live there, not so much.

In 4 hours of roaming, I met 3 gangs, 1 camp and a few transients. Now, DT is around noon where I live, and I get home from work about 20:00 local. This would mean that practically nothing remains to be explored by the time I get home. Going to check more this evening.

I guess what I'm expressing here: it seems kind of a waste to have a mechanic that is grasshoppered within a few hours after DT.

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-06-11 07:50:39 UTC
sites don't spawn at downtime.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#12 - 2014-06-11 07:55:10 UTC
Once you run a site it will respawn somewhere else. DT has nothing to do with how sites spawn.
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#13 - 2014-06-11 07:57:23 UTC
Handar Turiant wrote:

I guess what I'm expressing here: it seems kind of a waste to have a mechanic that is grasshoppered within a few hours after DT.


You sir, just give up too easy - I can find sites throughout the day. The issue here isn't re-spawn timers, it's not being persistent enough.
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#14 - 2014-06-11 07:58:24 UTC
Those sites are farmed right after DT. It doesn't take alot of time to clear them. Especially since there's alot of people running them.

As for 0.0 being empty.... It is outlaw space. The edges of known space. The "wild west". It should be desolate as ****.

Current politics however have made nullsec safer and more populated than ever. The "Wild West" is being colonized. Player empires are being build.

If you want to find lotsa people, both Jita and Amarr have high local counts all day long.
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-06-11 08:35:04 UTC
Ok.

So we have people stating sites are farmed right after DT, and others stating DT has nothing to do with it.

Can anyone comment accurately on the exact mechanic for CosSig spawning as it relates to Data/Relic sites in K-Space?

As to persistence, I'm happy that someone is finding sites all through the day: I'll definitely be roaming around still of course, so we'll see. Unfortunately, I have a job, so being persistent all day is not really an option. I have a few hours in the evening, at best.

I dig the 'lonesome' vibe of wandering around deep null, it's why I zip around W and K space, looking for things to do, sell and raid. It would be fun to actually interact with players though when you meet them. Just like in the aforementioned wild west: desolate, but people would still tip hats every now and then. Of all the systems I went through, and people I tried to engage, just 1 person reacted yesterday. Is everyone really thinking that any interaction will lead to hotdrop/AWOX/boom/hurt?

It just strikes me that mechanics in 0.0 have ultimately created a tendency not to interact, where player interaction is one of the joys of EVE (at least for me). And by interaction I don't mean a gateblob. I'm talking conversation, sharing of directions, etcetera.
Prince Kobol
#16 - 2014-06-11 09:20:46 UTC
Handar Turiant wrote:
Evening, oh wise and wrothful community.

So Kronos is out and I'm exploring to my hearts content.

Had a lovely roam through some wormholes into various 0.0 regions. Wicked Creek, Providence, Catch, Curse, etc.

Didn't find a single data or relic site in 30+ systems. Just wormholes and combat sites. For that matter, barely saw a capsuleer. Although did have some fun dodging some gatecamps and roaming gangs here and there.

Is right after DT the only viable time to do solo Explo now?

Does nothing ever respawn? Wouldn't it be fun if a completed data/relic site sets off a random timer between X and Y hours for the site to respawn in a random location in system? Just so the solitary misty eyed Space Satchel carrying indy jones wannabe explorers have ANYTHING to do at all?

I dabble in emergent (made 300m off it the other day saving a lost soul in Wspace), but in 0.0 nobody even responds to local or direct chat requests for sales of WH locations, combat sites, etc. Perhaps all of them station spinning or AFK?

0.0 make me sad. So empty. Much space. What waste.


Lol..

I have spent the last month in those system and found lots of data / relic sites as well as a couple of ghost sites Big smile

I will agree thou that those systems are more or less dead. One evening (EU prime time) I fly across Great Wildlands, Scalding Pass, Wicked Creek and Detorid and those most amount of people I saw in one system was 11 and they were all in a station.

This during about a 3 hour period.
Amenity Project
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-06-11 09:32:03 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
I will agree thou that those systems are more or less dead.


This during about a 3 hour period. [/quote]Those damn afk cloakers holding thousand man alliances hostage!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#18 - 2014-06-11 10:06:49 UTC
Handar Turiant wrote:
It just strikes me that mechanics in 0.0 have ultimately created a tendency not to interact, where player interaction is one of the joys of EVE (at least for me). And by interaction I don't mean a gateblob. I'm talking conversation, sharing of directions, etcetera.

I would've thought you were talking of blobs, timer fights and hellcamps.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-06-11 10:13:56 UTC
Handar Turiant wrote:
Evening, oh wise and wrothful community.

So Kronos is out and I'm exploring to my hearts content.

Had a lovely roam through some wormholes into various 0.0 regions. Wicked Creek, Providence, Catch, Curse, etc.

Didn't find a single data or relic site in 30+ systems. Just wormholes and combat sites. For that matter, barely saw a capsuleer. Although did have some fun dodging some gatecamps and roaming gangs here and there.

Is right after DT the only viable time to do solo Explo now?

Does nothing ever respawn? Wouldn't it be fun if a completed data/relic site sets off a random timer between X and Y hours for the site to respawn in a random location in system? Just so the solitary misty eyed Space Satchel carrying indy jones wannabe explorers have ANYTHING to do at all?

I dabble in emergent (made 300m off it the other day saving a lost soul in Wspace), but in 0.0 nobody even responds to local or direct chat requests for sales of WH locations, combat sites, etc. Perhaps all of them station spinning or AFK?

0.0 make me sad. So empty. Much space. What waste.


Can confirm this I roamed Vale of The Silent last nigh - 0 sites in 20 jumps or so.
Little to no population, just a bunch of guys camping a gate trying to catch me.

Also escaped my first bubble! \o/ yaaay for me !!!

Fornicate The Constabulary !
Nimrod vanHall
Van Mij Belastingvrij
#20 - 2014-06-11 10:41:40 UTC
When a site has been run it respawns in a random location or the same cluster.
immedeatly after DT some ppl run the sites because its a quiet time, these runners run a logical easy circle, if you follow that same circle you'll find next to no sites, ifyou go to the middle of nowere just after they have don their round, you'll find alot of sites.
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