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The use of the word "coward" and video games

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D20 Rollings
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-06-11 04:56:30 UTC
A lot of you like to use the word coward to describe a players in EVE. I suggest looking up the definition of "projection".

Calling someone a coward, while typing anonymously on an internet forum is ridiculous. Engaging in pvp doesn't make you brave, it makes you a gamer.

So does everything else performed within said game.

Have a nice life, time to die.

Doomhiem, receive meh! Apparently an Indy alt is to take my place Sad

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Brendan Anneto
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#2 - 2014-06-11 04:57:14 UTC
Your face!!

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-06-11 05:10:16 UTC
It's very cowardly looking.

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#4 - 2014-06-11 06:03:35 UTC
D20 Rollings wrote:
A lot of you like to use the word coward to describe a players in EVE. I suggest looking up the definition of "projection".

Calling someone a coward, while typing anonymously on an internet forum is ridiculous. Engaging in pvp doesn't make you brave, it makes you a gamer.

So does everything else performed within said game.

Have a nice life, time to die.

Doomhiem, receive meh! Apparently an Indy alt is to take my place Sad


I only use coward because the forum doesn't censor it.
D20 Cyberpunk
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-06-11 06:08:55 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
D20 Rollings wrote:
A lot of you like to use the word coward to describe a players in EVE. I suggest looking up the definition of "projection".

Calling someone a coward, while typing anonymously on an internet forum is ridiculous. Engaging in pvp doesn't make you brave, it makes you a gamer.

So does everything else performed within said game.

Have a nice life, time to die.

Doomhiem, receive meh! Apparently an Indy alt is to take my place Sad


I only use coward because the forum doesn't censor it.

The clinical term for your personality, according to your posts, is abrasive.

Again, if you think anything here is cowardice....Roll

“EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by Thousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.” William Gibson, if he would've played...
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#6 - 2014-06-11 06:10:42 UTC
Only cowards quit eve voluntarily Smile
D20 Cyberpunk
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-06-11 06:13:57 UTC
Karen Avioras wrote:
Only cowards quit eve voluntarily Smile


Isn't the opposite true?

“EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by Thousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.” William Gibson, if he would've played...
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#8 - 2014-06-11 06:18:44 UTC
D20 Cyberpunk wrote:

The clinical term for your personality, according to your posts, is abrasive.

Again, if you think anything here is cowardice....Roll


Abrasive is an understatement.
Miichael Epic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-06-11 06:21:04 UTC
I am going to have to disagree with you on that.

Often times everyone forgets that even though its a video game, its still a social situation. The mothers and fathers in this game would hopefully not be happy with their 10-12 year olds playing Call of Duty (why let children that young play those games?) and having grown men cuss them and tell them they are going to come to their house and kill them and things of that nature. That's just a video game but its also real life.

Before Dust/EVE I never ran a microphone in gaming and would never allow anyone to talk to me due to people always talking about how big their penises are or how many hoes they get or how bad ass they are with said weapon or vehicle or ship...etc etc

It is entirely possible to be a coward in a video game. Its more built into some people...they don't want to lose. They can't tolerate losing. They can't tolerate that someone out there is maybe better or has outsmarted them or gotten a lucky break with them. That's why you hear the FPS crowd say as soon as someone kills them, they must have been hacking.

You say projection, as in a mental image viewed as reality and its not so...but people can be nice in video games, can be mean in video games, can be polite, rude, generous, stingy, selfish and any other emotion. People fall in love and get married on video games. People forge lifetime friendships on video games....all facts.

And you say people can't be cowards on video game? Sure they can. The proof is in the pudding. Its a social situation. Its life. It is what it is and people are notoriously famous as a collective society for being shriveled up little weenies in real life but big bad asses online.

Its a social degradation and abhorrent trend. If your life sucks, fix it. Go to college, get a better job, get some confidence, get a haircut, learn some social skills, learn another language....if you hate yourself, find ways to love yourself. Its not that hard.

-fin-
D20 Cyberpunk
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-06-11 06:32:44 UTC
Miichael Epic wrote:
I am going to have to disagree with you on that.

Often times everyone forgets that even though its a video game, its still a social situation. The mothers and fathers in this game would hopefully not be happy with their 10-12 year olds playing Call of Duty (why let children that young play those games?) and having grown men cuss them and tell them they are going to come to their house and kill them and things of that nature. That's just a video game but its also real life.

Before Dust/EVE I never ran a microphone in gaming and would never allow anyone to talk to me due to people always talking about how big their penises are or how many hoes they get or how bad ass they are with said weapon or vehicle or ship...etc etc

It is entirely possible to be a coward in a video game. Its more built into some people...they don't want to lose. They can't tolerate losing. They can't tolerate that someone out there is maybe better or has outsmarted them or gotten a lucky break with them. That's why you hear the FPS crowd say as soon as someone kills them, they must have been hacking.

You say projection, as in a mental image viewed as reality and its not so...but people can be nice in video games, can be mean in video games, can be polite, rude, generous, stingy, selfish and any other emotion. People fall in love and get married on video games. People forge lifetime friendships on video games....all facts.

And you say people can't be cowards on video game? Sure they can. The proof is in the pudding. Its a social situation. Its life. It is what it is and people are notoriously famous as a collective society for being shriveled up little weenies in real life but big bad asses online.

Its a social degradation and abhorrent trend. If your life sucks, fix it. Go to college, get a better job, get some confidence, get a haircut, learn some social skills, learn another language....if you hate yourself, find ways to love yourself. Its not that hard.

-fin-



Thank you, seriously. Your post is eloquent and well thought out.

But misses the mark in a way a water balloon misses destroying a city.
The word coward thrown around here is misguided at best, referring to the eve-o forums.

What you are referring to is bullying, nevermind the redundant addition of cyber.

Coward, as a person who doesn't want to pvp, in the only semi-realistic space mmo is what I'm referring to,

I should of been more clear.

In the spirit of clarity, those that abuse others over a mic are bullies, and cowards.

In a game, acting within game mechanics, avoiding pvp....not so much.

Again, thanks for gracing my thread...your points are solid.

“EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by Thousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.” William Gibson, if he would've played...
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-06-11 06:36:15 UTC
Miichael Epic wrote:
...10-12 year olds playing Call of Duty (why let children that young play those games?)...


Probably because 8 to 6 years later they can join the armed forces and do it for real.
Totally understand where you're coming from though, an adolescence with hundreds of hours of violent daydreaming will probably generate unsympathetic, ungenerous and plainly boring adults.



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D20 Cyberpunk
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-06-11 06:39:51 UTC
Forum ate my post...so you get a +1, instead of the post commending your eloquence.

Damn forums. It was quite nice Smile

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Dave Stark
#13 - 2014-06-11 06:42:18 UTC
TIL: the OP doesn't understand what goading is.
Doreen Kaundur
#14 - 2014-06-11 06:42:45 UTC
Words only have the meaning that you give them.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#15 - 2014-06-11 06:44:18 UTC
What a cowardly post!
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#16 - 2014-06-11 06:44:42 UTC
D20 Rollings wrote:
"projection"
You means sort of like IZ did? Pretty much strait up, then screaming "lawsuit" from behind the curtain of anonymity until she(he/she) had a full meltdown and left. Some think the second coming is soon, others that it has already happened and she/he walks among us, just building up for the inevitable. Yes, projection Smile

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D20 Cyberpunk
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-06-11 06:46:11 UTC
Webvan wrote:
D20 Rollings wrote:
"projection"
You means sort of like IZ did? Pretty much strait up, then screaming "lawsuit" from behind the curtain of anonymity until she(he/she) had a full meltdown and left. Some think the second coming is soon, others that it has already happened and she/he walks among us, just building up for the inevitable. Yes, projection Smile


Can you engrish for me please?

Sad, I rather agree with most of your posts.

“EVE. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by Thousands of legitimate gamers, in every nation.” William Gibson, if he would've played...
Jiris Yusef
Ashtani
#18 - 2014-06-11 09:06:52 UTC
I agree with Michael Epic, you can definitely be a coward in a video game just as in real life. For instance if I get in a fight with someone in real life, run away and bring back my two friends to help so that I don't lose the fight, that's cowardly but also strategic. The same is true for EvE, if I get in a 1v1 battle and run away only to come back with two friends it's very cowardly, but strategic as well.
Jiris Yusef
Ashtani
#19 - 2014-06-11 09:09:01 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Miichael Epic wrote:
...10-12 year olds playing Call of Duty (why let children that young play those games?)...


Probably because 8 to 6 years later they can join the armed forces and do it for real.
Totally understand where you're coming from though, an adolescence with hundreds of hours of violent daydreaming will probably generate unsympathetic, ungenerous and plainly boring adults.






Yeah cause CoD is great training for being in the real military. And who would actually want to be in the real military.
Amenity Project
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-06-11 09:10:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Amenity Project
Hi, Infinity Ziona!

Your childish attempts to sting at me don't work.
And you're pretty much a coward too.
A huge one.


Bye, Infinity Ziona!
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