Ships & Modules

Hello fellow immortals,

I started playing about 4 days ago, and I'm with the Caldari Militia, but I'm a little stuck in an issue, I mainly run missions if I'm not attempting to capture a point, and I really have no idea how to be a Swiss Army knife ship, I've been using mainly a Cormorant (Rails) or Corax (Light Missiles) but I keep being hunted down, is there any way I can build a ship to be both PVE and PVP? Or is that just too difficult at this stage?

Also, what is better, I wanna train up for a Manticore or a Hawk, as my first goal, I figured (and I apologies if I'm wrong) that small ships are harder to hit with bigger ships, and Hawk looks pretty good for what it is, and the Manticore is because I read a guide that said it was a good choice for beginners, that an the whole Lai Dai ship designs look awesome!

I am also running a Moa as sniper support, is that a good choice? Or is it better as a Blaster Boat?

Thank you for reading, hope to hear from you all soon

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being able to get in a ship doesn't mean you have the skills to fly it well.

concentrate on improving your offensive and defensive skills. e.g. T2 missiles and all the supporting skills, shield skills and all the supporting skills.

You may be having challenges winning fights because you don't do enough damage or can't tank as well as your adversary.

look at the info page of your Corax and check the Mastery tab. You want to get lvl 2 or 3 mastery in that ship before you go Tech 2. The best way to plan your skill training long term is to use the mastery table.

If you rush to fly bigger/expensive ships before you have the skills to do damage and resist damage, you will throw much isk out the door.

Having a bigger or more expensive ship doesnt replace the skillpoints invested.

There is no reason to ever fit a 'PvE fit'. You don't always need to have warp disruptors, but being able to take advantage of surprise PvP is much better than watching your 'PvE Hero lolfit' go down in ultra tanked cap stable flames.

Cap stable and PvP don't mix with very few exceptions. 40 seconds of cap for something like a frigate is plenty, especially if you're using a MWD as you won't be running the MWD constantly so you're actually much more stable than the fitting window would suggest. If your ship is very cap intensive (lasers/active tanked/neuts) then you would use a cap booster in order to get the cap you need, trying to fit cap rechargers/relays is going to take up a huge amount of slots and gimp your fitting substantially.

I don't have experience with FW missions but as far as I know people generally run them in stealth bombers which can easily get away if someone is hunting you. As for capturing plexes, you don't need a PvE fit for those, the rats in the sites are very weak and can easily be killed in a PvP fit. You'll need the PvP fit to fight other FW pilots trying to take the plex from you.

If you like missiles and Caldari I would suggest sticking to the Kestrel, it's a good versatile ship and a solid choice for capturing plexes in. Focus on getting T2 light missiles, rockets, afterburner, scram, disruptor, web, ballistic control, damage control and get your support skills (missile support, speed skills) to 4s. It will take awhile but all these skills will apply to almost every ship you will fly in the future so none of it is wasted.

Cap stable and PvP don't mix with very few exceptions. 40 seconds of cap for something like a frigate is plenty, especially if you're using a MWD as you won't be running the MWD constantly so you're actually much more stable than the fitting window would suggest. If your ship is very cap intensive (lasers/active tanked/neuts) then you would use a cap booster in order to get the cap you need, trying to fit cap rechargers/relays is going to take up a huge amount of slots and gimp your fitting substantially.

I don't have experience with FW missions but as far as I know people generally run them in stealth bombers which can easily get away if someone is hunting you. As for capturing plexes, you don't need a PvE fit for those, the rats in the sites are very weak and can easily be killed in a PvP fit. You'll need the PvP fit to fight other FW pilots trying to take the plex from you.

If you like missiles and Caldari I would suggest sticking to the Kestrel, it's a good versatile ship and a solid choice for capturing plexes in. Focus on getting T2 light missiles, rockets, afterburner, scram, disruptor, web, ballistic control, damage control and get your support skills (missile support, speed skills) to 4s. It will take awhile but all these skills will apply to almost every ship you will fly in the future so none of it is wasted.

That's a bit unfortunate, but i guess ill learn to manage with it eventually, at least I'm not an Amar pilot where anything that helps you kills your cap too, haha!

And I thought so too about the Stealth Bomber, and i can get it to Master Level 2 in 79 days i think (might be mixed up with the Kestrel) which I thought was good, but i dunno..



I just got the Moa so i could train for an Onyx.. The missile Version, haha! That and I needed something tougher to run a gauntlet for a mission and I could fly it so I thought it was a smart idea, haha! And wow.. That's awhile, but i won't be cross training, I'm only training Caldari stuff, and stuff that helps them, shields, cap, hybrids, missiles, electronics, ECM, that kinda stuff, nothing else, no other weapon types or nothing, I just don't want too.. I tend to be very blunt in my approach to games, haha! That and I like being pure Caldari.. Add's some challenge and keeps some lore to the game (you wouldn't take a Vulcan Minigun and Strap it to a Abriam MkII Tank, haha!)