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Friend is quitting Eve after he is caught out with Bonus room scam

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Scorsigaar
Ruthless Regiment
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#21 - 2014-06-10 22:06:24 UTC
In other online games stupid people are merely annoying. In EvE they're a valuable resource.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#22 - 2014-06-10 22:08:40 UTC
"mostly paid for with real cash"

So... CCP already got his money, then?

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#23 - 2014-06-10 23:05:30 UTC
Scorsigaar wrote:
In other online games stupid people are merely annoying. In EvE they're a valuable resource.

QFT

Evil RatKid
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2014-06-10 23:19:56 UTC
maybe your friend shouldn't have tried to pay to win
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#25 - 2014-06-10 23:24:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
Please do not trivialise cyberbullying (which is a very real, very serious issue) with being out-competed by deceptive play in a competitive game.

If someone bluffs me at poker and the bluff wins them a big hand, I do not call them a child abuser, a drug dealer or a cyberbully. Instead, I look at how they bested me, what I can learn from it, where I went wrong, and how I can stop it happening again.

For your friend, the error may have been trusting the wrong person, or it may have been the error of starting a ruthlessly competitive game when instead they wanted something relaxing and cooperative.

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Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#26 - 2014-06-10 23:33:37 UTC
^That. I wish I could like it more.

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
Fighter Jets GuitarSolo
Krypteia Operations
#27 - 2014-06-10 23:58:33 UTC
Can I have your friends stuff?

Oh wait.

Evemail me or convo me in-game to inquire about my honest and ethical ISK doubling services! If you're in Jita, stop in and say Hi! ;) :D
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#28 - 2014-06-11 00:17:06 UTC  |  Edited by: DJentropy Ovaert
hetty B wrote:
Hello fellow Eve pilots, i understand most of you here are familiar with the Bonus room scam and the controversy of Erotica1?


Yes, we are all familiar with this. Erotica 1 is banned, and has nothing to do with your friend whatsoever. Moving on.

hetty B wrote:

Now he wants to quit the game which is understandable and i have advised him to file a ticket requesting that he get his belongings back and his SP. Now i know there has been many cases like this and players either learn from it or quit but all i want to know is why have CCP still allowed **** like this to happen to new players and not seem to be looking after our new players?


So either your friend learns from this experience (sounds like he got scammed out of his money and assets, and convinced to pod himself over and over and then taking actions to lower his sec status, right?) and stops being greedy and foolish, or he quits the game. This sounds like it's working 100% as intended. From what I am reading here, even though I don't have the full story, I am willing to guess that your friend fell for some classic scams and got taught a lesson.

This is the point where he can just laugh about it, learn from it, and move on to do better - or he can cry all over the forms and beg CCP to make Eve a happy land of unicorns and rainbows where players are unable to take advantage of other players. I know which one I would choose.

As was pointed out earlier, perhaps you should cease being such a awful officer of your corporation (you state that you allowed him into your corp) and make sure you either take in members that are not terrible or take the time to educate them on how to not be terrible? HTFU, take some responsibility for your corp and the actions of your members, and stop crying to others about "Cyber bullies". It sounds like neither you nor your friend have any business being in a player run corp, as you have proven you are both unable to handle it.

hetty B wrote:

And i know those Cyber bullies like to record there hilarious bonus rounds ,does anyone know where we can find them to listen to it as we would like to determine how serious this one is ?


No.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#29 - 2014-06-11 00:33:02 UTC
This is not the audio you are looking for but your friend may want it.

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Jack Lennox
Grove Street Families
#30 - 2014-06-11 00:43:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Lennox
hetty B wrote:


Now he wants to quit the game which is understandable and i have advised him to file a ticket requesting that he get his belongings back and his SP.


This has happened before and if it happens again I'm going to be pissed. If you're dumb enough to pod yourself again and again and again you deserve to lose SP.

hetty B wrote:

And i know those Cyber bullies like to record there hilarious bonus rounds ,does anyone know where we can find them to listen to it as we would like to determine how serious this one is ?



Basically what Sabriz said. Cyberbullying is a real thing that is very harmful, but this is not it. You're trivializing an otherwise very important issue by labeling this incident as such.

If you're offended/bothered/upset about what someone wants you to do in Teamspeak, then click the red "x" in the top right corner of your screen. Boom. Problem solved.

Harden.

The.

****.

Up.

Would write more but I have a Microcenter 7 update that I need to take care of, cheers


EDIT: Obligatory "Erotica 1 did nothing wrong" post

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Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
#31 - 2014-06-11 01:45:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Zero Sum Gain
How did they convince him he'd get skill points and security status back through the scam? I'm genuinely curious.
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2014-06-11 06:09:30 UTC
Sec status can be bought through tags, which is easy enough. Skillpoints can be bought with your unfathomable rewards via the character bazaar.

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Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-06-11 06:50:25 UTC
hetty B wrote:
now lost all his isk mostly paid for with real cash?


ISK doesnt buy expierence. New players should not have that much isk. I am happy your friend quit. another dude gone that would just ruin eve.

Thank you. Good Bye

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Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#34 - 2014-06-11 06:51:32 UTC
I'll call this troll post troll.

If not, lesson learned the hardway.

Get on Comms, or die typing.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#35 - 2014-06-11 08:31:11 UTC
I did some fact checking on this story.

The 'bonus room' is not a game of chance, nor a game of skill. It is a game of nerves. And the contestant, in this case, did not have the nerves of steel required to become a big winner.

He pulled out of the running too early to win big but too late to save the invested assets.

Funds the game for everyone else.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#36 - 2014-06-11 08:44:17 UTC
Great thread, would read again. Big smile

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Cavalira
Habemus
#37 - 2014-06-11 09:36:38 UTC
Posting with an NPC alt. Probably just some nerd trying to stir **** up with a made up story.
Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
#38 - 2014-06-11 15:53:15 UTC
How can you buy plex with real money to pay for a (virtual/gameplay) scam in a video game.

It's not much different than the one who really paid about $4000 for plexing a virtual spacecraft, ganked afterward in no time...
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#39 - 2014-06-11 15:57:02 UTC
Karl Jerr wrote:
How can you buy plex with real money to pay for a (virtual/gameplay) scam in a video game.

It's not much different than the one who really paid about $4000 for plexing a virtual spacecraft, ganked afterward in no time...
Stupid has no upper limit

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Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
#40 - 2014-06-11 16:18:34 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Karl Jerr wrote:
How can you buy plex with real money to pay for a (virtual/gameplay) scam in a video game.

It's not much different than the one who really paid about $4000 for plexing a virtual spacecraft, ganked afterward in no time...
Stupid has no upper limit

Haha true