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I am sick of using 3rd party tools

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#41 - 2014-06-10 17:55:00 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:

If you could go torture the RPers


Strangely enough, not many of them are into that Cry

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#42 - 2014-06-10 17:56:12 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Im sick

100% agree


Thank you!

I knew we would get on well eventually.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Amenity Project
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2014-06-10 17:56:31 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
In-Game Tools Please wrote:
A more serious topic at hand:

How is Ramona McCandles in the first 1-5 replies of every single thread I make no matter which alt I use?

The only logical conclusion is that Ramona McCandles is my alt too and I just don't know it.


Why is the second "s" in my surname hard for some people to type?
Because of candles, obviously.
Marsha Mallow
#44 - 2014-06-10 17:57:05 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Nice bald head, OP. Please make yourself useful.

That's an interesting solution to the hair problem Sibyyl, looks quite fetching. I really dislike Marsha's hair, but I'm not getting anywhere with my hat/paper bag campaign.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-06-10 18:03:20 UTC
OP, here's some food for thought. You've obviously not though this through. Lets look at the third party tools you are criticizing.

DOTLAN: Absolutely more useful than the in-game map. I really hate how the in-game map takes over the screen. DOTLAN is there with a simple alt+tab or in the in-game browser. The in-game map is useful for tons of other things (like explo), but I really don't need DOTLAN embedded in it (which would cause all that DOTLAN information available with an alt+tab to disappear).

EVEMon: I can browse skill queues for MULTIPLE CHARACTERS at once. I can click and drag and copy and exchange and do all kinds of sharing things I couldn't do if the tool were inside the game. Logout. Login. Change something. Logout. Login. No thanks.

EFT: Same as above. Lets me consolidate and share fits between alts. Does this mean the in-game fitting tool shouldn't change? No, but EFT lets me emulate a character with all V skills, or look at other alts while I'm playing with one character.

ISIS is awesome. Also, have you never looked at ship mastery plans?

I will agree with you only to this point:
The map is terribly implemented. I don't like that it takes over the entire screen, and there are too many clicks involved to change views. But do we really need SOV data on it? I don't think so.

And using a throwaway alt.. really? Really shows your commitment to this idea.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#46 - 2014-06-10 18:05:26 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
What ...
... the HELL ...
... did you just do?


An alarm was about to go off

So I "preempted" it



Remember this kids. Always be pleasant to the staff, otherwise things may be "missed".

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-06-10 18:08:23 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
Nice bald head, OP. Please make yourself useful.

That's an interesting solution to the hair problem Sibyyl, looks quite fetching. I really dislike Marsha's hair, but I'm not getting anywhere with my hat/paper bag campaign.

Actually I very much like Sib's hair. But there is a lack of hairstyles in EVE (Sol is not crazy for thinking this).

I just chopped it off for Mr. Pix!

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Solecist Project
#48 - 2014-06-10 18:14:21 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Sibyyl wrote:
Nice bald head, OP. Please make yourself useful.

That's an interesting solution to the hair problem Sibyyl, looks quite fetching. I really dislike Marsha's hair, but I'm not getting anywhere with my hat/paper bag campaign.

Actually I very much like Sib's hair. But there is a lack of hairstyles in EVE (Sol is not crazy for thinking this).

I just chopped it off for Mr. Pix!
The little girl in me hates you for always looking good.

Always.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyssssssssss.



I need a resculpt. :(


I sell myself to anybody who pays me a resculpt, for 30 days!

Whaddayathink everybody? :/


Alternatively, you can pay me a resculpt for not having me on your ass for 30 days.

That'd work too.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#49 - 2014-06-10 18:25:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Domanique Altares
Solecist Project wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Not this time sadly, but it's been known to happen. Blink
Interesting.
Would you care to expand on this? ;)


Well, there was this time that Romona and I decided to liquidate (liquefy) most of the residents of lowsec (literally, using acid) and store them in steel drums...
Doreen Kaundur
#50 - 2014-06-10 18:26:34 UTC
did someone say "waste of dev time?" Shocked

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Solecist Project
#51 - 2014-06-10 18:27:13 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Not this time sadly, but it's been known to happen. Blink
Interesting.
Would you care to expand on this? ;)


Well, there was this time that Romona and I decided to liquidate (liquefy) most of the residents of lowsec (literally, using acid) and store them in steel drums...
That doesn't actually sound hot at all. :/

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#52 - 2014-06-10 18:28:03 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Not this time sadly, but it's been known to happen. Blink
Interesting.
Would you care to expand on this? ;)


Well, there was this time that Romona and I decided to liquidate (liquefy) most of the residents of lowsec (literally, using acid) and store them in steel drums...


I did the hammerwork, I do enjoy that

I think we got through a few orbital colonies and a nursery before the local militia finally decided to move us along

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#53 - 2014-06-10 18:30:58 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
That doesn't actually sound hot at all. :/


You should have seen what we were wearing

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-06-10 18:33:49 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Well, there was this time that Romona and I decided to liquidate (liquefy) most of the residents of lowsec (literally, using acid) and store them in steel drums...


I did the hammerwork, I do enjoy that

I think we got through a few orbital colonies and a nursery before the local militia finally decided to move us along


O_O

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#55 - 2014-06-10 18:41:17 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
That doesn't actually sound hot at all. :/


You should have seen what we were wearing


...and what we weren't.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#56 - 2014-06-10 18:43:02 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
That doesn't actually sound hot at all. :/


You should have seen what we were wearing


...and what we weren't.


Of course, we went under the assumed names of Yuri and Kei at the time

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2014-06-10 19:00:09 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Prince Kobol wrote:
Its was a fantastic move by CCP in regards to releasing the API, one which I am surprised no other developers have done.


What bizarre planet are you on?

Domanique Altares wrote:
Well, there was this time that Romona and I decided to liquidate (liquefy) most of the residents of lowsec (literally, using acid) and store them in steel drums...

That's it, I'm moving out of low sec.

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Prince Kobol
#58 - 2014-06-10 19:11:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Its was a fantastic move by CCP in regards to releasing the API, one which I am surprised no other developers have done.


What?


Another poster with reading issues..

I will try and make this as simple as I can.

CCP, by releasing the API code to such an extent as they have and by continuing to modify / add to it, they have allowed their paying customers to develop tools which most people would of already expected to be in the game.

So to recap.. CCP release / maintain / add / modify API code which allows us, the paying customer to develop tools which means they do not have to spend time + money to do themselves.

Let me put it another way, things such as a fitting tool like EFT, a skill management system such as EveMon, a map with the ability to plot a route such as dotlan are things you would expect a 11 year game like Eve to have.

We are not talking about some monumental technical challenging additions here, however there is zero motivation for CCP to bother with any of these things as they already exist and do the job fine.

My surprise is that other developers for other game haven't done similar things. Why spend time and money creating certain aspects of your game, things which most people would expect to see if your paying customer can do it for you?

Then again maybe it is only in Eve where the players (did I mention we were paying customers?) have no issue developing tools which really should already be in the game.

Either way since CCP have been letting go of so many talented developers and many other have left of their own accord over the last 12 months, something tell me it will not change any time soon.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#59 - 2014-06-10 19:13:24 UTC
I think his point was that some have

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Prince Kobol
#60 - 2014-06-10 19:17:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I think his point was that some have


Yes but in a very limited way. I am not aware of any other game that has the scope for players to create tools such as we have in Eve.

Arhg.. FRACKING FORUMS !!!!!!!!!