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Disciples of Ston

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Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#21 - 2011-09-11 03:41:44 UTC
SAVE OFTEN

Ever heard that expression when you were first taught to use a computer? Yep, I just wrote a long, heartfelt account of the day's experiences, thought I posted it, only to find it didn't post. Now I am too fried to remember what I said. Yikes. Have to work on it tomorrow.

This Disciple needs sleep.
The Disciples of Ston bid you peace.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#22 - 2011-09-11 13:21:27 UTC
SHOCKED WHEN I SHOULDN'T BE

Since my original post that I had labored on disappeared into cyberspace, I decided to treat it as practice and start over on the events of the last few days. It started when we rescued another group of slaves. This time, when I looked up the registry of the container, it belonged to a Vherokior. I was shocked, so I contacted the pilot and asked why he had jettisoned 38 humans into space to die. He responded with two messages, one daring me to cross the border with those slaves and the other threatening to stick a weapon up a certain area of my body. Why was I shocked that a Minmatar would be engaged in the slave trade? Perhaps it is because I have known Vherokior who I would describe as noble, honest, brave, principled, and faithful. Perhaps I would assume no Vherokior would trade in slaves, much less kill them like they are bugs under foot. What a wrong assumption.

SURPRISE WHEN I SHOULDN'T BE

That leads to some other wrong assumptions. One of the slaves we rescued was a young man named Tobias. He will be in my memory as long as I live. Long story short, he expressed the desire to be given to a benevolent Holder so that he could further his enlightenment in the faith. He was sure of his conviction and he asked for my help. I thought immediately of Ms. Goldcore and her family. Arrangements were made and Tobias has become a servant in their household. Ms. Goldcore was gracious to give me a choice to tour any of their facilities on their home planet. This I did. I am confident that Tobias will freely live the life he wishes to live. I would not be surprised to here that the Goldcore family may one day offer him his freedom; a freedom he would say he already has; a freedom to serve and pursue faith. Not all holders are the same. While most understand this, we need to say it now and them. Prejudice comes in many forms.

I wish to thank Tobias for bringing and abolitionist and a Holder together in a shared purpose, to honor the wellbeing and life wishes of a slave rescued from death in space. It is quite humbling.

Lesson: Let us hold our opinions just a little lighter than we think we should. And, beware lest our convictions lead us to prejudice and false judgment. Surely I have been guilty of that.

My gratitude to the Goldcore family. Your hospitality was open and cordial. I believe you to be honest people.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#23 - 2011-09-12 01:43:16 UTC
Ston, Don't go native on me.

What I mean is this...

Apply the principles you are learning with as complete an evenness as you can. Just as not all Vherokior are like me or like the slave trader you met, not all Holders are like the Goldcore family. Not all slaves are like Tobias. Let the testimony of the slaves you rescue temper your interactions with Ms. Goldcore. I am glad for families like her's but don't be naive about the whole of the Amarr institution of slavery.

One instance of either a positive or negative should never be used to generalize the whole. Use the the broadest possible testimony. Careful, lest you become enamored by any one representative.

For example, just as the slave trader does not represent the Vherokior as a whole, neither do I. Many Vherokior are pagans; I am not. I am a monotheist. I do not subscribe to Amarr monotheism; nevertheless I am a monotheist. I am not a typical escaped slave. I am not a typical Vherokior. None should generalize from my example.

Nor should you generalize from Ms. Goldcore's example. Does the Goldcore family represent a typical Holder? I am not here to make that judgement, nor should you, Ston. My Holders were nothing like the Goldcores but that doesn't mean that I should generalize my experience across the board. Accept her for her own sake and not in the stead of anyone else. That is what I mean by not "going native."

Yes, grow in experience, but keep your philosophical head about you. You still need to be able to evaluate slavery as a whole while acknowledging that some Hodlers are benevolent and kind people. Can you do that? I'll see you in a bit.

SANKOFA

Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#24 - 2011-09-12 02:47:25 UTC
PILOTS, WE NEED YOUR HELP

We would like a list of Amarr border systems where slaves are Jettisoned and abandoned. We want to rescue as many as we can. If any of you have the names of these systems and willing to share them with us. Please respond to this post. We would be very grateful.

Manwe, I will try very hard not to "go native" as you say. But, I am vulnerable in that area as you know. I sometimes blur the line between optimism and naivete. I am sure you will call me to the carpet when I do.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2011-09-12 04:27:01 UTC
Although I understand my facilities are exceptional, I would like to think the premise of humane treatment and an honest lifestyle is a hallmark for anyone who considers themselves loyal to God and Empire. Still, I am aware this is not always the case. I have said it before and will say it again, I agree that these slaves who live in inhumane conditions deserve freedom and their holders are not agents of God.

If you where to take anything from your visit to my facilities I hope it would be that we are not the monsters the federation or republic would lead you to believe. I don't expect you to suddenly embrace my way, but hopefully understand why...

I would like to extend my offer of a tour of my facilities to anyone who is interested in inspecting them... of course... security is important to me as I wish to protect my servants and my operations, so I reserve the right to have reasonable restrictions and security measures. Contact me via evemail if your interested in touring my wine making facilities.

God's blessings upon you
Thgil Goldcore
Templar Lieutenant
Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#26 - 2011-09-12 19:27:47 UTC
I am now working in Ston's place in rescue operations for awhile. I decided to make a direct appeal to experienced pilots to provide information on which systems slave traders commonly jettison their slaves. I started a separate thread to reach as many pilots as possible. I hope we will get some response and hopefully gain information that we do not already have.

I believe that even the "Faithful" Amarr should want to help in this endeavor. I don't think it is inconsistent with their beliefs. So, please give us assistance if you can. Thanks

SANKOFA

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-09-12 20:40:01 UTC
Manwe Todako wrote:
I am now working in Ston's place in rescue operations for awhile. I decided to make a direct appeal to experienced pilots to provide information on which systems slave traders commonly jettison their slaves. I started a separate thread to reach as many pilots as possible. I hope we will get some response and hopefully gain information that we do not already have.

I believe that even the "Faithful" Amarr should want to help in this endeavor. I don't think it is inconsistent with their beliefs. So, please give us assistance if you can. Thanks


Manwe, a good place to search would be the border systems between the Amarr Empire and other regions of space, where slavery is illegal: it seems likely that pilots would jettison contraband substances of all sorts, including slaves, there.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#28 - 2011-09-12 21:02:45 UTC
Thanks Mr. Galente,
That is where we are searching. We were hoping to save some time. We were hoping experienced pilots would have some system names where they have seen this happen frequently. We would be very grateful and so would those we rescue.

SANKOFA

Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2011-09-13 03:07:19 UTC
There is no need to put faithful in quotations as if we would not assist in helping save lives. I understand your brutal history Manwe but we Amarr are no monsters.

I would imagine that many slaves may be left on the field of battle, along with many other survivors, in minmatar space where capsuleer's conduct missions for agents. Since picking up the slaves would result in a crime, and most capsuleers don't take the time to sort out survivors.

a set of probes and a salvager module could do alot of good.
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#30 - 2011-09-13 03:15:47 UTC
AND THE LEAVES OF THE TREE ARE FOR THE HEALING OF THE NATIONS

That is the motto of our revised Corporate logo. Manwe came up with it, though he claims that it is not his wording, but some very ancient reference. No matter, I really like it and it captures our values well. Today, I performed a double cremation ceremony. There are places of peace and dignity even in the bustle and avarice of Jita. I appreciate Manwe picking up the rescue work. I do hope that you have success in expanding your search, but don't get too far away from where successful rescues have already occurred. We are too few in number to spread out too thin.

I continue to pick up the bodies left over from the violence of the Jita system. I will need to take a group of bodies back to Korama soon. Perhaps there I will take some time to rest and meditate.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace.

P.S. Ms. Goldcore, if you happen to read this, I remember a question I forgot to ask you. Do you sing as part of your worship? If so, is there room for unique adaptations within acceptible forms of singing for those who serve your household? I know you are busy, but if you have a chance, give my greetings to Tobias. Thank you.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2011-09-13 03:56:36 UTC
I don't personally sing, mostly because my singing voice is about as harmonious as a slaverhound's bark. Although singing is always a part of the ritual of mass.

Tobias seems to be adapting well. He has recently moved from his time of solitude and should be going though placement about now. So we shall see where he ends up to best serve me and thus the Empire.
Edaine Numenor
Numenor Benevolent Holdings
#32 - 2011-09-13 13:36:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Edaine Numenor
Ironically, as founder and CEO of the Disciples of Ston, I am not myself a Disciple. I cannot or rather am not willing to espouse the total lack of violence and also am not quite attuned to shunning the accumulation of wealth. That said, I "feel" more like a Disciple these days than since our organization began. I think it is the slave rescue project that has me motivated. Have you ever noticed that work that is usually interesting can become dull when the vision of a significant contribution presents itself? So it is with me now. I have been engaged in a business project related to the expansion of mining and refining activities. Now, the work seems a bit slow and tedious. I am finishing my current work but it is taking a long time.

I am anxious to begin work establishing a planetside facility for those former slaves that are willing and desire to establish transitional communities. These communities will be shaped by the members, not by those from the outside. We await a couple things. First, for the Governments of the Federation, Republic, and State to get off their collective posteriors and provide legal means to change the status of rescued, escaped, an otherwise freed slaves. As it is, this is the main limitation and danger in our work. It is ironic and something the "free governments" of this Cluster should be ashamed of. These rescued slaves will have their first real taste of liberty within Amarrian space, because the Gallente, Caldari, and Minmatar refuse to legally and permanently acknowledge that they are anything but slaves.

For this reason we are also encouraging those who sojourn through these pages to also support an initiative ((here)) In essence, we need to squeek the proverbial wheel with the powers that be if we want to see change happen.

Liberating slaves wherever, whenever, and however I can.

Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#33 - 2011-09-14 01:55:14 UTC
I need to develop a cooler head. On my first successful slave rescue operation tonight, the adrenaline really shook me. All I could think about was getting those slaves back to the center. I was worried about those left behind and if they would be there on the return trip. I was attacked by a pilot who was still in system when I took the slaves from his can. I was unnerved when I scanned a can and found not only slaves but also slavers and slaver hounds. I was not prepared for that. As a result of this, I was only able to get the name of one of the pilots involved in the Jettisoning of the slaves. We want to put the names of the pilots here as a record of their deeds. The one pilot carried the alias "Sir Podsalot." He was also the pilot who fired on me.

I am thankful for 39 precious people rescued tonight from death. We have asked the One who has created us all for guidance and are thankful for it. I also appreciate Ston's advice to return to where we have had success. That was good advice. Ston and Edaine are aware of the situation with the capture of the slavers along with the rescue of the slaves. We will be seeking information about what to do with the slave traders we captured.

SANKOFA

Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#34 - 2011-09-14 02:29:05 UTC
MORAL DILEMMA

Tonight, Manwe rescued 39 former slaves from death in the cold of space. In the process, he also detained 5 slavers (slave traders). While patrolling Jita for the Clone Body Return service, I asked for advice on the Summit. Mr. Thassalonia recommended that the slave traders should be brought to the MIO for trial and appropriate justice or to the Matrai security officials for the same. We appreciate Mr.Thessalonia's advice. We never expected this to happen so we never prepared for it. We would appreciate more advice and information.

Here is our concern. The Disciples of Ston are against capital punishment and cannot hand anyone over if that is even on the table. Our problem is, we don't know what the punishments are in either Amarr Justice or Minmatar Justice. Sometimes, the Amarr punishments include multi-generational slavery. We are opposed to this. We have heard that the Minmatar may execute them. We are opposed to this as well. What to do?

We will speak to the former slaves that were rescued and who were the ones really responsible for the capture of the slave traders. (See Manwe's account). Their input is important as well. Pilots who have insight on this are asked to please help us out with sound advice. This presses another issue for us as well; that is the need to include some rudimentary justice and law enforcement mechanisms in our matriculation communities even if they are temporary. We believe that there are those among the rescued capable of putting a plan together.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Edaine Numenor
Numenor Benevolent Holdings
#35 - 2011-09-15 14:06:24 UTC
I have left Joint Harvesting a bit miffed at myself for having worked for them in the first place. Our team is wrapping up operations in Piekura. We will finished processing materials into one last run in our robotics plant. Then it is one to establish a planet side colony in service to those former slaves being rescued. We will hope to be around for as long as we are needed. We also hope to assist any who want to go on to other places. My role will be financial and to establish and set up planetary operations.

I apologize to Ston and Manwe for any embarrassment my brashness may have caused them. The work is a good work.

Liberating slaves wherever, whenever, and however I can.

Jason Galente
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2011-09-15 17:28:24 UTC
Ston Momaki wrote:
MORAL DILEMMA

Tonight, Manwe rescued 39 former slaves from death in the cold of space. In the process, he also detained 5 slavers (slave traders). While patrolling Jita for the Clone Body Return service, I asked for advice on the Summit. Mr. Thassalonia recommended that the slave traders should be brought to the MIO for trial and appropriate justice or to the Matrai security officials for the same. We appreciate Mr.Thessalonia's advice. We never expected this to happen so we never prepared for it. We would appreciate more advice and information.

Here is our concern. The Disciples of Ston are against capital punishment and cannot hand anyone over if that is even on the table. Our problem is, we don't know what the punishments are in either Amarr Justice or Minmatar Justice. Sometimes, the Amarr punishments include multi-generational slavery. We are opposed to this. We have heard that the Minmatar may execute them. We are opposed to this as well. What to do?

We will speak to the former slaves that were rescued and who were the ones really responsible for the capture of the slave traders. (See Manwe's account). Their input is important as well. Pilots who have insight on this are asked to please help us out with sound advice. This presses another issue for us as well; that is the need to include some rudimentary justice and law enforcement mechanisms in our matriculation communities even if they are temporary. We believe that there are those among the rescued capable of putting a plan together.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace


I'm not certain that slavers would be under the jurisdiction of the Gallente Federation, but if you could get them arraigned in a Federal court, they would receive just yet merciful sentences.

Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole. And this foundation must be defended.

At any cost

Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#37 - 2011-09-15 17:39:24 UTC
The State does not look kindly on the illegal practice and/or trafficking of slavery within its borders. Should these slavers be found under the jurisdiction of the State, they would be dealt with harshly.

I doubt their treatment would be unjust, but it would also likely not be considered "merciful."

~Malcolm Khross

Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#38 - 2011-09-15 18:10:36 UTC
I am sitting here with a bottle of water, a nutritional ration, and 97 recently freed Minmatar sharing the same with each other and with me. Gladius has just given thanks and we are eating drinking together. Soon, other Matriculants will be welcoming these into this new community. Already, Gladius has asked to visit with the other Elders. I am jotting these notes on my data pad while they are fresh in my heart, but I just realized that these things must be felt and cannot merely be written with any accuracy.

Welcome to freedom, my friends.

SANKOFA

Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#39 - 2011-09-16 00:37:35 UTC
THE RELATIVE VALUE OF "VALUABLE"

It is interesting how the capsuleer in general has been numbed by wealth so that "value" is not as easily felt. I see this in a very simple way in our work as Disciples of Ston. From the beginning, we decided to make little and do with little. When I am out in Jita, looking for bodies, now and then, I come across discarded ships. These are usually rookie ships of shuttles. The shuttle have become valuable to us because they are fast and they warp quickly. We use them as hearses. The saying, one man's trash is another man's treasure is quite applicable. Pilots throw away shuttles, we thankfully pick them up and use them.

I witnessed another clone suicide today. This also has to do with value. I hear more and more pilots talking about the disconnect between infomorph and body and infomorph and humanity all the time. When we willfully discard our bodies, we are making a value judgment. This value judgment is very different from the value judgments of "ordinary" humans. In that sense, there is most definitely separation going on.

I will be taking some time soon to collate data on the subject of self-determination and the capsuleer. Our early work dealt extensively with this and recent experiments have garnered interesting observations. I will need to put it together sometime while the experiences are fresh. I am a little concerned that my conclusions may generate rancor among some schools of thought. I will try to be tactful.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace

Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#40 - 2011-09-16 13:36:22 UTC
I am continually haunted by a persistent thought that will not go away. This thought? "How many men, women, and children die in the cold of space, because we cannot get to them before their containers disintegrate in the radiation and cold of space? What are they thinking about as death approaches. How are the Mothers and Fathers comforting their children as death creeps in? How are the Elders strengthening the group as they face death together." The Disciples of Ston are too few in number to rescue every group of slaves jettisoned into space, but that does not stop these haunting thoughts.

We challenge other pilots to take the time to check those containers at border jump gates. Rescue those those former slaves you find. We are willing to take them into one of our centers. Please!

SANKOFA