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Does anyone ever use Clone Vat bays?
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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#1 - 2014-06-10 15:27:59 UTC
I have been playing since july 2006 and have yet to run into corp or alliance ever using one.

My question for the comunity is: does any one actually use this mod and if so in what capacity?

Peronally i would like to use one as i live in hostile space and not even remotely close to a npc station with a med bay. but the fact you have to use either a rorq or a titan and you have to be outside a pos shield pretty much makes it a non starter.

I would like it if the clone vat bay was made into a pos mod or at the least able to be activated inside of a pos.

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#2 - 2014-06-10 15:41:37 UTC
Only silly walks Titans will waste a slot on a clone vat. Pretty much anything else a Titan will fit is a better use of the slot. Supercarriers won't use them for the same reason. Rorquals might use them, but only for commercial purposes and only if they don't mind blowing up.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2014-06-10 15:46:22 UTC
Make it a POS mod and it may get used.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#4 - 2014-06-10 15:46:50 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
Only silly walks Titans will waste a slot on a clone vat. Pretty much anything else a Titan will fit is a better use of the slot. Supercarriers won't use them for the same reason. Rorquals might use them, but only for commercial purposes and only if they don't mind blowing up.


pretty sure supercarrier cant use them since they are no longer moms.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#5 - 2014-06-10 15:48:01 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Make it a POS mod and it may get used.


should the mod be outside of the pos or inside?

I would totally use one in a heart beat if i could put one in a pos.

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Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-06-10 15:50:57 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Make it a POS mod and it may get used.


should the mod be outside of the pos or inside?

I would totally use one in a heart beat if i could put one in a pos.


It would have to be a module that can not be onlined in a WH. I dont think that is a parameter you can give to a POS module atm and adding that to the POS code...you don´t really want to torture the poor devs that much, do you?

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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#7 - 2014-06-10 15:53:38 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Val'Dore wrote:
Only silly walks Titans will waste a slot on a clone vat. Pretty much anything else a Titan will fit is a better use of the slot. Supercarriers won't use them for the same reason. Rorquals might use them, but only for commercial purposes and only if they don't mind blowing up.


pretty sure supercarrier cant use them since they are no longer moms.


Right, guess I'm slightly out of date.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#8 - 2014-06-10 15:54:05 UTC
Charlie Firpol wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Make it a POS mod and it may get used.


should the mod be outside of the pos or inside?

I would totally use one in a heart beat if i could put one in a pos.


It would have to be a module that can not be onlined in a WH. I dont think that is a parameter you can give to a POS module atm and adding that to the POS code...you don´t really want to torture the poor devs that much, do you?


umm yeah that works... how about instead of muking with the pos code they make it a "new deployable" (as that code is brand new) that can only be activated within 5km of a pos and cant be used in a wh.

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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2014-06-10 16:07:58 UTC
We use them all the time to create jump clones for people. Also they work just fine inside POS shields.

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Erufen Rito
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-06-10 16:10:01 UTC
I've used them on a Rorqual a few times before, when corpies couldn't get jump clones in hisec, so we moved them to a low system, cynoed in the rorqual, and abused the crap out of it. Made something like 60 jump clones.

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#11 - 2014-06-10 16:13:04 UTC
Same as above. Rorquals are fantastic.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#12 - 2014-06-10 16:14:13 UTC
Joshua Foiritain wrote:
We use them all the time to create jump clones for people. Also they work just fine inside POS shields.



can someone C/D this as even in "help" chan in game there is not a consistant answer on this.

though if indeed it does work inside a pos this would make it usefull to me as i do have a spare rorq. but still i think it should have a pos mod or deployable structure added

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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#13 - 2014-06-10 16:37:45 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Charlie Firpol wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Make it a POS mod and it may get used.


should the mod be outside of the pos or inside?

I would totally use one in a heart beat if i could put one in a pos.


It would have to be a module that can not be onlined in a WH. I dont think that is a parameter you can give to a POS module atm and adding that to the POS code...you don´t really want to torture the poor devs that much, do you?


umm yeah that works... how about instead of muking with the pos code they make it a "new deployable" (as that code is brand new) that can only be activated within 5km of a pos and cant be used in a wh.


Better yet, just make it a regular deployable that only works for the character who anchored it. Use it as an addition to the "mobile camp" type of thought, using a depot as a sort of hub with other modules that can be put around it.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#14 - 2014-06-10 16:43:19 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Better yet, just make it a regular deployable that only works for the character who anchored it. Use it as an addition to the "mobile camp" type of thought, using a depot as a sort of hub with other modules that can be put around it.


even better

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Jassmin Joy
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#15 - 2014-06-10 16:49:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Jassmin Joy
Val'Dore wrote:
Only silly walks Titans will waste a slot on a clone vat. Pretty much anything else a Titan will fit is a better use of the slot. Supercarriers won't use them for the same reason. Rorquals might use them, but only for commercial purposes and only if they don't mind blowing up.


You realise there' s this magic thing called "refitting" that titans can do, means there's no "wasted slots" i also heard rorquals can blow up when they do it in the saftey of a pos, Do you even ever undock?

I use them, i'm far too lazy to grind standings to make clones in stations so i just use clone vat bays, super usefull for alts and stuff without standings too.

MeBiatch wrote:
Joshua Foiritain wrote:
We use them all the time to create jump clones for people. Also they work just fine inside POS shields.



can someone C/D this as even in "help" chan in game there is not a consistant answer on this.

though if indeed it does work inside a pos this would make it usefull to me as i do have a spare rorq. but still i think it should have a pos mod or deployable structure added


Yea, they work inside pos.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#16 - 2014-06-10 17:02:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Old post of mine on Rorqual & clone vat:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3509090#post3509090

Includes a link to an even older post on how to move 40 people between systems.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#17 - 2014-06-10 17:21:39 UTC
Jassmin Joy wrote:
Val'Dore wrote:
Only silly walks Titans will waste a slot on a clone vat. Pretty much anything else a Titan will fit is a better use of the slot. Supercarriers won't use them for the same reason. Rorquals might use them, but only for commercial purposes and only if they don't mind blowing up.


You realise there' s this magic thing called "refitting" that titans can do, means there's no "wasted slots" i also heard rorquals can blow up when they do it in the saftey of a pos, Do you even ever undock?

I use them, i'm far too lazy to grind standings to make clones in stations so i just use clone vat bays, super usefull for alts and stuff without standings too.


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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#18 - 2014-06-10 17:44:50 UTC
Calling all relevant CCP devs, this is a section of the game worth giving a little iteration to.

...or are you hiding the secret tasty cookies like this from us because they're all part of some big null sec sov revamp you have planned?

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#19 - 2014-06-10 17:51:23 UTC
I've used one.

Oh god.
Marsha Mallow
#20 - 2014-06-10 17:54:08 UTC
My old corp used one when we were in Empire recruiting a lot of rookies. We just parked a rorq in a lowsec POS for a week or so. We would have preferred a POS module for sure.

I've seen it suggested recently somewhere on the Indy/POS changes feedback thread. Might be worth poking the devs in there again.

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