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Yes, but now most people dont need to train it to iv at all anymore, there's only a very small subset of fits that actually need the lvl iv or higher to make them fit (due to drawbacks).

Are you going to be removing the requirements from the rig modules as well as they are now irrelevant aside from affecting the drawbacks.

1) the people who are in the warp affect the warp, so no (interesting question though)

2) yes you will avoid it yourself

go play with the feature yourselves!!! don't be asking me about everything

cool stuff... any chance you can add "status" to the chat menu?

I am in a small corp and it would be awesome if there was a way to know if my buddies i am trying to talk with are AFK or not.

Settings could be:

Available

AFK

Wife Agro

Bio Break

HI5s all around. Still love the changes. :)

What's wrong with you people? You should be happy about no skill rig fitting.

okay how about this double the negative effects and increase the skill to 15% per level.

that way if you dont have the skill trained its a 20% drawback.

or at level V 5%.

that way you encourage players to actually train the skill.

true enough... I would say add drawbacks for all rigs... for the engineering rigs i would say a reduction in agility or scan resolution or somthing would be in order.

Regarding rigs: perhaps the skill requirements should be moved from fitting to using? (cue: thousands of low-skilled T2 rig users crying out in horror)

MDD

Ummm, Big No TY.

The last thing we need is another barrier to entry for newer pilots to competitively pvp. I want more content in the game and adding yet another drawback to lower sp players takes away from new bros. And who gives a ***** about rigging skills.

IMO rig skills aren't perfect but they're balanced enough that adding drawbacks would just add another "Wtf factor" to new pilots trying to get competitive in PvP.

I support these changes, it's nice little adds like this that keep coming out that keep us happy. Thanks CCP!

There has to be a way of doing this that actually gives an incentive to train the rigging skills similar to the one that exists now.

I'm not normally one to cry that changing what a skill does is unfair, but I would argue that this is a massive kick in the teeth to people who trained the skill, partly because we did it knowing that there was a way around doing it, and wanted to be able to fit the rigs ourselves rather than asking for help, and partly because I know that I personally trained them partly because I wanted to be able to help fit rigs for other people.

Frankly, I would say that rigs should be exempt from the "Don't need skills to fit it" thing. Logically, the skill is required to fit the rig, rather than being required to actively use it, as is the case with modules. Therefore, it makes sense for the skill to be checked when the rig is being fitted, and never again afterwards, as is the case now, so I'd say that continuing to require level I or IV to fit it would be behaviour that is more in line with how rigs work otherwise.

The way that the rig skills currently works encourages working with other players, and is an easy way for an older player to help out a newer one.

From a lore point of view, look at it as the actual modification of the ship's systems being complex, while their operation after the work is done is just as simple as ever.

TL:DR; Remove being able to fit rigs from this, leave it as it is. They are already fundamentally different from modules and should be thought of separately.