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** HILMAR - Remove the CSM Now...**

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#361 - 2011-11-16 22:17:25 UTC
I'm not sure Hilmar needs to be removed at this point, to be honest, not if they keep up the pressure on updating EVE.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
May Zonday
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#362 - 2011-11-17 23:28:52 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
I'm not sure Hilmar needs to be removed at this point, to be honest, not if they keep up the pressure on updating EVE.

Oh look they fired all the people working on Vampires and Dustmen to focus on EVE, fancy that.

Keep Hillmar

also reset TEST
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#363 - 2011-11-17 23:35:20 UTC
Never don't reset TEST

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#364 - 2011-11-17 23:41:55 UTC
Reset test, snipe grath through walls.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Sephiroth Clone VII
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#365 - 2011-11-18 15:55:12 UTC
May Zonday wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
I'm not sure Hilmar needs to be removed at this point, to be honest, not if they keep up the pressure on updating EVE.

Oh look they fired all the people working on Vampires and Dustmen to focus on EVE, fancy that.

Keep Hillmar

also reset TEST


Wut, you serious?

Proof.
Signal11th
#366 - 2011-11-24 12:03:33 UTC
Damn is this silly thread still going?

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#367 - 2011-11-24 14:14:05 UTC
You're not helping. :colbert:

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Temba Ronin
#368 - 2011-11-25 22:24:12 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
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You have some odd ideas about what the CSM can do and what it's for. The CSM isn't EVE-parliament or anything. They can't just "decide" that 0.0 can be arbitrarily nerfed and then CCP have to go and do it.

And your proposal that people be recalled for being "perceived" to be biased is flat out pants-on-head insane. Listen, I'll give you a tip about putting forward ideas for how things should be changed in EVE: the very first thing you do - even before you start working on details, is think to yourself "how could I abuse this". If you can think up even a single way to exploit the idea, then ditch it, because rest assured that for every one way you think up, some devious bastards will think up 9 more.


I had respect for your comments right up to this point ..... amazing to me that so many posting have such a profound arrogance of "their opinion is best". Perception is what we all rely upon, facts can persuade us to redefine our perception, so in real life "recalls" are often triggered by perceptions and then the battle of facts hopefully wins the day.

I will continue to put forth ideas that can be tested here in the forums to be battered and hopefully improved by those knowledgable enough to take the time to think and just not regurgitate their well staked out positions. You continue to dwell in your "fear the exploiters realm" if you are comfortable there, good luck with that.

From this point forward i will consider the "source" when you post comments about sanity, your lack of intellectual agility was dissapointing, you turned out to be just another name calling poster. I don't need to revisit adolesence so you just keep having fun calling people names when you can't defeat their points on merit.

Explains why the goons love your posts so much.

The Best Ship In EVE Online Is "Friendship", Power To The Players!
tengen san
Triton-TC
#369 - 2011-11-26 00:04:22 UTC  |  Edited by: tengen san
Lord Zim wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
And your proposal that people be recalled for being "perceived" to be biased is flat out pants-on-head insane. Listen, I'll give you a tip about putting forward ideas for how things should be changed in EVE: the very first thing you do - even before you start working on details, is think to yourself "how could I abuse this". If you can think up even a single way to exploit the idea, then ditch it, because rest assured that for every one way you think up, some devious bastards will think up 9 more.

And given his last few attempts, I'm thinking he should turn his idea truck into the ditch permanently, because I'm not particularly devious and I've had no problems basically blowing his ideas to kingdom come. He should rather leave that job to people such as yourself.

Malcanis for CSM7.


Lord Zim, that is trolling on high level, kowing Malcanis is not seeking office. But here you go, thats what you are.
tengen san
Triton-TC
#370 - 2011-11-26 00:07:05 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
I'm not sure Hilmar needs to be removed at this point, to be honest, not if they keep up the pressure on updating EVE.


Basically he gives no **** about. One day or another he will sell to Sony anyway and enjoy the retirement while you are still arguing the whereabouts.
tengen san
Triton-TC
#371 - 2011-11-26 00:10:29 UTC  |  Edited by: tengen san
Ladie Harlot wrote:
You'd think we were being unreasonable in asking for specific ways the CSM has harmed the game in a thread titled "HILMAR - Remove the CSM Now..."


There are no specifics. CSM are working as intended and the whole OP is just an emotional outburst already death serving the troll.
Tore Vest
#372 - 2011-11-28 21:25:44 UTC
CSM still here ?

No troll.
Andramedae
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#373 - 2011-11-29 21:52:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Andramedae
Tore Vest wrote:
CSM still here ?


Was going to ask that as well, but then realised its like asking the same question about that insane smelly auntie who continually turns up to family get togethers. No one really cares that she is there as long as everyone stands downwind.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#374 - 2011-12-03 02:22:52 UTC
Once upon a time, CSM served it's purpose.

I don't think that it can't again, but under the current leadership, I feel that it can't help but slant events in favor of one alliance or another. I propose that CSMs must be chosen from unaligned players who have no alts in any major alliance and that such players be prohibited from joining said for a period of eight months after their term ends.
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#375 - 2011-12-03 18:32:40 UTC
This thread reminds me of that botting thread where the title was asinine, but it became the 'official' thread for it anyway.

As I said back in July:

"This CSM sucks. No real surprise there. CSM is a PR stunt by CCP and should be done away with. CSM V tried to make it more than that and got put in their place.

Mittens is a drunken clown who doesn't even play the game. The rest of them are sycophants. All they do is protect CCP from the full force of customer outrage/unsubscriptions by letting CCP pretend that they listen to their customers. And act as meatshields.

The whole CSM had read Fearless weeks ahead of its public release and none of them were concerned about it. They chalk up the protests to a 'communications issue' (in other words, CCP needs to lie more convincingly.)

Anyway, complaining about them is a waste of time because they're more useless than anything else and there are bigger fish to fry. But it would be nice if the council were abolished or at least there were a formal way for the players to express the 'vote of no confidence' mentioned in the thread title."

Nothing has changed since then except that CSM VI has tried to take credit for the protest that they tried to extinguish. The more relevancy that CCP gives them, the more it demonstrates just how out of touch CCP still is.
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#376 - 2011-12-03 20:21:45 UTC
Alright, so we have a BoB guy, a deranged PI conspiracy theorist, and Akjon still posting away at this thread. With critics like these, I'm feeling ever more confident about CSM6. We must be doing something right.

~hi~
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#377 - 2011-12-05 12:36:04 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Once upon a time, CSM served it's purpose.

I don't think that it can't again, but under the current leadership, I feel that it can't help but slant events in favor of one alliance or another. I propose that CSMs must be chosen from unaligned players who have no alts in any major alliance and that such players be prohibited from joining said for a period of eight months after their term ends.


I propose that you've excluded most of the people who actually play the game on the basis of a "feeling" that you've offered exactly zero evidence to support.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#378 - 2011-12-05 13:55:06 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Once upon a time, CSM served it's purpose.

I don't think that it can't again, but under the current leadership, I feel that it can't help but slant events in favor of one alliance or another. I propose that CSMs must be chosen from unaligned players who have no alts in any major alliance and that such players be prohibited from joining said for a period of eight months after their term ends.

SO you propose to take random newbies fresh from trial, or even during trial, who know nothing about the game or its issues, and make them CSM? Because that would make the most unbiased CSM. And most worthless too.

[b]For Love. For Peace. For Honor.

For None of the Above.

For Pony![/b]
Stahlregen
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#379 - 2011-12-05 14:57:33 UTC
Red Templar wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Once upon a time, CSM served it's purpose.

I don't think that it can't again, but under the current leadership, I feel that it can't help but slant events in favor of one alliance or another. I propose that CSMs must be chosen from unaligned players who have no alts in any major alliance and that such players be prohibited from joining said for a period of eight months after their term ends.

SO you propose to take random newbies fresh from trial, or even during trial, who know nothing about the game or its issues, and make them CSM? Because that would make the most unbiased CSM. And most worthless too.



Not specifically newbies, just anyone but somebody who might actually know what they're doing.
It's really a brilliant plan; If you're into the whole game-wrecking thing!

That's it, I've got it. Let's put forward some shobon newbee as our representative next CSM elections.
This is gonna be hilarious.

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT'S CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN' WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXY'S MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN.
HaxTis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#380 - 2011-12-06 08:55:41 UTC
I'll be a CSM :shobon: