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Flyinghotpocket

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#141 - 2014-06-07 18:35:58 UTC

Cearain wrote:

X Gallentius wrote:

Gallente Federation" victoryPoints="21140"
Caldari State" victoryPoints="18240"
Amarr Empire" victoryPoints="10120"
Minmatar Republic" victoryPoints="9420"

Going down a little bit on our front. Seems like Amarr/Minmatar holding steady.

More "max stabilized" systems - especially home systems. "Farmers" are hitting defensive more than offensive right now.

More roaming gangs, fewer plexing ops, larger ships (having nothing to do with Large Plexes).

It used to be that you didn't get vp for cross plexing. Does anyone know if that is still the case?

it is not the case.

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Templar Dane

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#142 - 2014-06-08 11:39:40 UTC

X Gallentius wrote:

Templar Dane wrote:

2. I spend much of my day defensive plexing my home system. Every. Single. Day. As long as I am online and at the keyboard, no wartarget captures a plex in my system. Yet there I am spending hours deplexing. If I don't, few others will, and the system slowly ticks up. That not pressure?

Do you still spend much of your day defensive plexing, or is this all a pre-Kronos statement?

I do, and I have the stabbed farmer killmails to prove it.

The crappy no-skill ones are sticking to novice plexes, and the others have started using stabbed destroyers. Blaster can can do a large.......

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#143 - 2014-06-08 11:47:57 UTC

Cearain wrote:

It's semantics. Since their is cross plexing and many alts don't care where they are plexing you basically have the caldari/amarr plexing alt army versus the minmatar/gallente plexing alt army.

As to how much of an effect that alt army had I think it did the overwhelming amount of work. But others disagree. We hashed this out back when the medal was awarded and I am willing to stand by the data I used back then and don't really have the time or inclination to look at it any more. If people want to see the stats and data we were slinging at each other back then they can feel free to look it up.

I am willing to leave it as reasonable people can disagree.

Every time things swing back around in the amarr/minmatar area, the charge is always led by russian plexing alts. The majority of the farmers, that is. They have to get starved for plexes once they switch sides, but the thing is many of them have learned to milk those 100% systems by using an alt from the opposing militia.

God help us if they ever figure out they could concentrate on minmatar + caldari or amarr + gallente and milk those systems.

X Gallentius

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#144 - 2014-06-08 13:34:37 UTC

X Gallentius wrote:

Gallente Federation" victoryPoints="21140"
Caldari State" victoryPoints="18240"
Amarr Empire" victoryPoints="10120"
Minmatar Republic" victoryPoints="9420"

Gallente Federation" victoryPoints="21900"
Caldari State" victoryPoints="16920"
Minmatar Republic" victoryPoints="10080"
Amarr Empire" victoryPoints="8600"

VP rates appear to be stabilizing.

Baron' Soontir Fel

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#145 - 2014-06-08 15:39:11 UTC

Templar Dane wrote:

X Gallentius wrote:

Templar Dane wrote:

Do you still spend much of your day defensive plexing, or is this all a pre-Kronos statement?

They can't do it effiiciently. It took me a good minute of whacking away at a BC rat with a Moa with 450 dps.\

In addition, the rats have reduced a lot of stabbed plexing, and destroyers are much more expensive and much easier to catch than frigates.

SeaSaw

Tribal Liberation Force

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#146 - 2014-06-09 12:46:36 UTC

Good Sirs;

I haven't played much lately so I tried Kronos' new anti-farmer rules out.

I took my 3 stabbed pure t1 rifter out a few days ago into the Dal Vard Sisiede area. Server population was in the 35000 area. I had to make a few jumps to offensive plexing. It does take 100 seconds to kill the rat and they do reappear.

I never finished a plex because I got attacked repeatedly by reds. They landed within about 5 minutes.

Things have changed, I can't read the whole time with half an eye to see whats flashy on my screen. I can read about 80% of the time.

I guess these rules change things for Bots, but I never ran a bot. I am glad to see the pirates are still out in force.

These new rules will cut into my reading time.

your humble servent
SeaSaw

Veskrashen

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#147 - 2014-06-09 13:33:52 UTC

SeaSaw wrote:

Good Sirs;

These new rules will cut into my reading time.

your humble servent
SeaSaw

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Overall the trends seems to be towards deplexing for alts now, rather than offensive plexing. Should lead to more warzone stability absent coordinated pushes. Whether that's going to lead to stagnation or not... yet to be seen.

On the other hand, it's been a blast being able to focus on getting a wide variety of fights in a wider variety of fleet comps these days, since we're not as tied down to plex warfare.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."

Cearain

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#148 - 2014-06-09 14:05:26 UTC | Edited by: Cearain

Flyinghotpocket wrote:

Cearain wrote:

X Gallentius wrote:

It used to be that you didn't get vp for cross plexing. Does anyone know if that is still the case?

it is not the case.

Thanks I just ran some plexes in Gallente space yesterday to see what they were like. But I am showing 0 vp for yesterday. I am assuming a "day" is downtime to down time so the plexes I ran before the last downtime should show up as run "yesterday." Maybe I have that wrong.

edit: it seems to be showing my enemy militia kills from yesterday. It seems that we are only seeing the vp that does not involve crossplexing.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

X Gallentius

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#149 - 2014-06-09 15:06:59 UTC | Edited by: X Gallentius

Cearain wrote:

Flyinghotpocket wrote:

Cearain wrote:

X Gallentius wrote:

It used to be that you didn't get vp for cross plexing. Does anyone know if that is still the case?

it is not the case.

It has always been that way. Cross plexing VP is not recorded.


X Gallentius Black Eagle1 Likes received: 2,982	#150 - 2014-06-09 15:08:36 UTC Gallente Federation" victoryPoints="19700" Caldari State" victoryPoints="18340" Minmatar Republic" victoryPoints="9880" Amarr Empire" victoryPoints="7720" Minor drop in VP. May be that easy defensive plexing systems are drying up. May be Sunday.


X Gallentius Black Eagle1 Likes received: 2,982	#151 - 2014-06-10 12:43:50 UTC "Gallente Federation" victoryPoints="24140" "Caldari State" victoryPoints="19200" "Minmatar Republic" victoryPoints="10300" "Amarr Empire" victoryPoints="8940"

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Thanatos Marathon Moira. Likes received: 655	#152 - 2014-06-10 13:54:27 UTC 1 I think they could probably tone back the amount of rat spawns slightly (increase the time window) and it wouldn't ruin what they have accomplished. Killing seven destroyers in a small is a bit overkill. JUSTK is recruiting

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#153 - 2014-06-11 06:48:36 UTC

Thanatos Marathon wrote:

I think they could probably tone back the amount of rat spawns slightly (increase the time window) and it wouldn't ruin what they have accomplished. Killing seven destroyers in a small is a bit overkill.

Really? I quite enjoyed burning off the beacon in my atron to kill the rat, only to make it back to 10k off the beacon when a dual web arty firetail came in. Was a good fight with him in structure Roll

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munitqua Perkone Caldari State Likes received: 10	#154 - 2014-06-11 06:58:49 UTC \| Edited by: munitqua These changes are great. Thank you CCP :) Defensive plexing and stabbed destroyers, great :)


X Gallentius Black Eagle1 Likes received: 2,982	#155 - 2014-06-11 13:32:59 UTC Gallente Federation" victoryPoints="18800" "Caldari State" victoryPoints="18220" "Minmatar Republic" victoryPoints="8940" "Amarr Empire" victoryPoints="8680" Amarr up a little, others down a little.

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Crosi Wesdo War and Order Likes received: 2,054	#156 - 2014-06-11 13:42:16 UTC My tentative interpretation is these numbers represent both a drop in total farmer numbers but mostly the fact that they have been slowed down significantly by the changes. The question is, are these changes good for the health of PvP in plexes? Hasnt effected me yet but then i dont scram brawl in ab ships.

Veskrashen

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#157 - 2014-06-11 13:52:34 UTC

Also feel it's a reflection of the shift to deplexing in stabbed stuff over oplexing in stabbed stuff. But yes - now that it's a lot harder to offensive plex in low SP boats while AFK, things seem to have slowed down a lot.

As far as PvP - still a lot of good solo and plex fights happening, plus we're seeing a lot more varied fleet comps out and about. Roaming seems to be a lot more popular these days.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."

X Gallentius

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#158 - 2014-06-16 12:42:16 UTC

X Gallentius wrote:

Gallente Federation" victoryPoints="19700"
Caldari State" victoryPoints="18340"
Minmatar Republic" victoryPoints="9880"
Amarr Empire" victoryPoints="7720"

Minor drop in VP. May be that easy defensive plexing systems are drying up. May be Sunday.

One Sunday later and VP are down some more.
Gallente Federation" victoryPoints="17140"
"Caldari State" victoryPoints="13720"
"Minmatar Republic" victoryPoints="8100"
"Amarr Empire" victoryPoints="6640"

X Gallentius

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#159 - 2014-06-17 13:16:40 UTC

X Gallentius wrote:

Gallente: 17740
Caldari: 14920
Minmatar: 6320
Amarr: 6040

FW is dead! IT'S DEAD!!!! Except for those Gallente farming alts.

Endeveren Erata

State Protectorate

Caldari State

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#160 - 2014-06-17 19:27:15 UTC

X Gallentius wrote:

Gallente: 17740
Caldari: 14920
Minmatar: 6320
Amarr: 6040

FW is dead! IT'S DEAD!!!! Except for those Gallente farming alts.

One can only deplex so much before it's all dried up. :P

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