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Wut- I mean Wurm
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Blood Enslaver
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-06-04 00:55:54 UTC
I was playing around with EFT with the new worm buff and I couldn't quite believe what I was seeing.

EFT Image

Needs Genos to fit but..
Thats 292DPS (302 Overloaded) @20km mark... with 8.1k EHP and a tracking disruptor.
To be fair, I don't think brawlers can outdps this, even if it's caught in scram range. Am I missing something or is this the one to avoid for the next months?
Voi Lutois
Vonkell
#2 - 2014-06-04 01:03:28 UTC
Worm is looking pretty mean.
Claud Tiberius
#3 - 2014-06-04 01:41:37 UTC
I think the EHP is beatable by most t2's, but that dps (drones) is scary.

Run away.

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
Garrett Howe
New Eden Shipbuilding
#4 - 2014-06-08 04:12:08 UTC
Claud Tiberius wrote:
I think the EHP is beatable by most t2's, but that dps (drones) is scary.

Run away.


My only fear about these changes. I love the Worm, and was looking forward to a buff, but if it's too good, people will just run away and you won't get fights (solo ones that is).
XxRTEKxX
256th Shadow Wing
#5 - 2014-06-08 14:24:57 UTC
Does eft not break down the dps on weapons and drones like pyfa does? All I see in that image is total dps.
NovaCat13
Ember Interstellar Inc.
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#6 - 2014-06-08 19:50:43 UTC
XxRTEKxX wrote:
Does eft not break down the dps on weapons and drones like pyfa does? All I see in that image is total dps.


It does, you have to mouse over the dps to see it though. [FYI it's 233.8 drone dps]

Just say NO to Dailies
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#7 - 2014-06-08 20:01:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ireland VonVicious
Lost it's awsome ECM ability. Detracts from it's buff but.......

The DPS is up over 50% so it's the seems to be the biggest gurrista buff of the bunch.

The worm looks better with rockets as up close fighter now.

I'm showing 9.4k tank with 334 in pyfa. Using med extender/dc/rigs for tank. web/scram/ab.

It was a nice kiting ship before but now it looks like a brawler.
W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-06-08 21:36:14 UTC
ship can fit 3 launchers
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-06-09 05:16:31 UTC
I'm vaguely well-known in militia circles as a long-time Worm fancier and yeah, CCP have gone a tad far with the buffs.

My current fit puts out 355dps before overheat and has 5500ehp before Med ASB. Which could be described as somewhat excessive.
Doggy Dogwoofwoof
New Eden Corporation 98713347
Brotherhood of Spacers
#10 - 2014-06-09 05:17:11 UTC
Squatdog wrote:
I'm vaguely well-known in militia circles as a long-time Worm fancier and yeah, CCP have gone a tad far with the buffs.

My current fit puts out 355dps before overheat and has 5500ehp before Med ASB. Which could be described as somewhat excessive.

Fit?
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-06-09 06:08:37 UTC
Doggy Dogwoofwoof wrote:
Squatdog wrote:
I'm vaguely well-known in militia circles as a long-time Worm fancier and yeah, CCP have gone a tad far with the buffs.

My current fit puts out 355dps before overheat and has 5500ehp before Med ASB. Which could be described as somewhat excessive.

Fit?


It's a secret.
Songbird
#12 - 2014-06-09 08:26:48 UTC
Quick EFT....
5300 ehp, 345 DPS , with faction modules
[Worm, New Setup 1]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Damage Control II

Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler I

Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I

'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2


Rage rockets. Not sure how feasible
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-06-10 01:58:18 UTC
There seems to be a discrepancy between in-game DPS listings and EFT.

With EFT, my current Worm fit does 332dps, which is still an obscene amount for a faction frig with a Jesus tank.
Goldensaver
Maraque Enterprises
Just let it happen
#14 - 2014-06-10 02:39:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldensaver
Songbird wrote:
Quick EFT....
5300 ehp, 345 DPS , with faction modules
[Worm, New Setup 1]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Damage Control II

Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler I

Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I

'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2


Rage rockets. Not sure how feasible

Quite feasible against any targets you have tackled, given the explosion radius of only 25.5m. With a web and scram in play it's no issue at all. And having the target tackled while you shoot Rage rockets at it is a given, considering the simple fact that Rage rocket range is 8.4km and both scram and web range are higher than that.

Oh, and you should really make that Warp Scrambler I into at least a J5b.

Edit: oh, and you can lose an overclock if you use both a Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler and a Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor.

Edit 2: and this is the same thing with slightly less damage and tank, only substantailly cheaper by virtue of using high meta instead of faction:
[Worm, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I

Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I

'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-06-10 07:52:29 UTC
Worm is pretty op and needs a nerf.

Now rage pls.

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Sarpadeon
Rebirth Industries
#16 - 2014-06-10 12:35:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarpadeon
Goldensaver wrote:
Songbird wrote:
Quick EFT....
5300 ehp, 345 DPS , with faction modules
[Worm, New Setup 1]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Damage Control II

Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler I

Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I

'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2


Rage rockets. Not sure how feasible

Quite feasible against any targets you have tackled, given the explosion radius of only 25.5m. With a web and scram in play it's no issue at all. And having the target tackled while you shoot Rage rockets at it is a given, considering the simple fact that Rage rocket range is 8.4km and both scram and web range are higher than that.

Oh, and you should really make that Warp Scrambler I into at least a J5b.

Edit: oh, and you can lose an overclock if you use both a Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler and a Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor.

Edit 2: and this is the same thing with slightly less damage and tank, only substantailly cheaper by virtue of using high meta instead of faction:
[Worm, New Setup 1]
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I

Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I

'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2

following that logic why not just drops the BCS? its needlessly CPU expensive for the benefit, and a 2nd DDA will give more dps for 10 less CPU, letting you drop an overclock for a thermal resist rig, keeps the cost under 135m per ship

final stats: resists all 50+, 351/366 OH DPS, 43.8m sig, 2932/4198ms OH speed

[Worm, tight fit]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Internal Force Field Array I

Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Inferno Rage Rocket

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-06-11 13:42:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Squatdog
So yeah, Worm has started to get a bit silly.

Earlier, I burst down a blaster Comet without even turning on the ASB and killed a Crow without actually tackling it. Then I warped back to the plex and comfortably chewed through a Hawk with Warrior IIs and kinetic rockets. For good measure, I later burst down a blaster Atron in literally 9 seconds.

BALANCED.
iu'ra
Criterion.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#18 - 2014-06-11 18:46:00 UTC
Has any tried a Small Drone Durability II rig on a Worm with CN Hornets? I'm curious to know how that would work
Garrett Howe
New Eden Shipbuilding
#19 - 2014-06-12 01:12:46 UTC
iu'ra wrote:
Has any tried a Small Drone Durability II rig on a Worm with CN Hornets? I'm curious to know how that would work


You can get a really good passive tank on the drones, but the rigs nerf your CPU capacity and eliminate spots for tanking rigs. With how much damage the Worm can do, fights really shouldn't last long enough for you to worry about running out of drones. I've thought about using the rigs for PvE with some DLAs, kite at 100km and let your drones tear apart NPCs, especially since the larger ones won't aggro on small drones.