Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Most new players don't stick with EVE because they think of all MMOs in terms of themepark MMOs. That the game doesn't "begin" until max level and everything between new character and level 5 everything is just tutorial.

This has been a "problem" since EVE launched.

The only way to solve this problem is by either:

• Redesigning EVE from the ground up to better conform to the expectations of people who's only experience with MMOGs is world of warcraft
• Figure out a way to force people to leave their preconceptions at the door and teach them how to make their own content/goals.

Once someone figures out how to do either of the aforementioned without destroying the game, call CCP. Then Nobel, as you've made a pretty amazing discovery.


Which is all to say the primary problem here is an endemic problem with with mainstream gaming in general. The demographics that were only attracted to video games once the video game industry started spending billions of dollars a year on marketing aren't the type of demographics to really embrace anything new or different unless what is new or different is being advertised during the superbowl.

It's fascinating how every thread of this nature is started by someone who has THE answer, yet each thread has a completely different answer that is so obviously THE answer that only an idiot could fail to believe that it is THE answer. Seriously, same story every time.

Call me jaded but players leaving to scams....are not really a loss. This game requires some brain power to play. Not much, but some lol.


Lets go with the common scams I see in jita.

I will buy 2 plex for over the price of current market. Hmmm, they need 2 plex bad. Its on sale for X on market. They a saying in local they will pay x+100 mil. this is a sign.

Then they want to get trade window. A second sign. Why are they trading when....the plex is on the market at x.


third sign is they are spamming every 5 seconds for this deal. You see normal folks go to jita, buy their plex and gtfo....I am a 5 year bitter vet...I remember when I got plex for less than 300 mil. Going on a plex run for me is like going to a dentist these days. Its painful...and I pay lots of money for that pain. All I ask is my time in the chair is over as soon as possible.


Or they have a contract for it where basic reading skills will show you are getting 1.7 mil and not 1.7 bil. Reading is fundamental. Especially on contracts...the scam or real deal is all there. If you take a few damn seconds to read and work it out.

And the saddest part of it is that even after so many years it was still just "pew-pew in the space" we have today. So much potential, so sad end..

EvE is EvE... a cold, harsh place that will drive players away who can't handle it. Those who throw off the aspect of the weak, wobbly whiner will be here forever.

I love EvE, and will play it until the server shuts down. That is a bit idealistic, but there it is.

Without changing the deep foundation of EvE harshness, development has given, given, and compromised in a major effort to keep players. I applaud them for their efforts, but they can only go so far before they break this beautiful work of art.

As long as we have enough players to keep CCP in business and developing EvE in all its bloody glory... I'm satisfied.

1. PLEX price is too high.
2. its very boring to pay on mothly basis. At least at every 60 days.

What can be done:
- global PLEX market will lower price.
- minimum game time added is 60 days.

Pleole will stop leaving.

1) It's only an assumption that they are leaving just because of that. You don't have to have a blue blood flowing through your veins to be able to pay 10$/month for a game. That could force some multiboxers to unsubscribe some part of their alt army, but this is, I'm certain, is a good thing anyway.
2) This is simply a wishfull desire, which will in fact harm those, who buy these PLEXes for real money and need them to cover their expenses ingame. And their profits is a way more important than inconviniences of those who buy it for isk, cause former pay with real cash and thats they who actually suport the project.

Like jester says (kinda), only 15% of eve's content is good. The rest is plain boring. Thats why noone stays. And the themepark part. Its just easier to be in a themepark, thats maybe even free to play, than in an expensive sandbox. Most people dont even understand sandboxes.

Btw, i find it kinda bad to advertise eve through its massive super fights. They just see the good stuff about those fights, but not the utter boredom of total tidi. And yes, tidi is a total problem, which made me leave 0.0 forever. Okay, tidi is better then black screens and crashes, but it still sucks. And the only way to fix it, would be more server power. Not stuff like a player cap per system. That cant work, CFC will just bridge in all their people.

Well, how can we hold more real players and not just someday being 100 players with 1000 alts? Content that is actually fun and not just something thats there.

Won't probably help until cheap quantum computers hit the market

Making Eve more like WoW is exactly what is going to kill it.

Make the game more interactive with players and less of a theme park instead.

And no that isn't the same.