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A small boost to the Syndicate LP store

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Vic Jefferson
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#21 - 2014-06-08 07:44:54 UTC
Micah Contusa wrote:
Bump, extremely hard to tell newbros that there are basically no good ways of making isk out where we live.


This is basically what it comes down to. Newbros needs a consistent, reliable way to make income, and there aren't any in Syndicate.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#22 - 2014-06-08 09:20:01 UTC
Well paying L4 empire faction NPC corps?

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Aliventi
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#23 - 2014-06-08 19:13:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Aliventi
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Well paying L4 empire faction NPC corps?

That's the thing. Currently we tell people if you need to make isk go away from where we live and run incursions or do l4 SoE missions in highsec. I would love to say "Hey! You can make great isk out here! Just run Intaki Syndicate missions and buy and sell faction items."

Currently Lowsec has Sec tags, Mordu's Legion Rats, FW sites, etc. Highsec has safe missions and incursions. SOV nullsec has aniom sites you can afk in an ishtar or VNI. NPC nullsec has no real source of income or anything that makes the space unique. It is the old useless lowsec with bombs and bubbles. I would love for CCP to address this and make NPC nullsec space unique and worth living in.
Aurora Starglow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-06-08 20:25:03 UTC
+1
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#25 - 2014-06-08 22:27:49 UTC
Aliventi wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Well paying L4 empire faction NPC corps?

That's the thing. Currently we tell people if you need to make isk go away from where we live and run incursions or do l4 SoE missions in highsec. I would love to say "Hey! You can make great isk out here! Just run Intaki Syndicate missions and buy and sell faction items."

Currently Lowsec has Sec tags, Mordu's Legion Rats, FW sites, etc. Highsec has safe missions and incursions. SOV nullsec has aniom sites you can afk in an ishtar or VNI. NPC nullsec has no real source of income or anything that makes the space unique. It is the old useless lowsec with bombs and bubbles. I would love for CCP to address this and make NPC nullsec space unique and worth living in.

This.

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Elmnt80
Life. Universe. Everything.
#26 - 2014-06-08 23:47:09 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Well paying L4 empire faction NPC corps?


The problem with empire faction L4's in places like syndicate is that you take a much, much higher risk for a very small increase in reward. You receive a small bump in the mission rewards, but overall it doesn't represent an increase in income compared to the larger risks taken. At the moment, the best way to have people make isk is to have them probing down DED 7/10's, 8/10's and 10/10's (6/10's and 9/10s do not exist for the serpentis faction) and handing them off to the older players to run while they supplement it with relic and data sites. However this absolutely pales in comparison to what someone makes in highsec doing incursions or exploration, in lowsec farming security tags and mordus rats or level 5's or in Sov Null due to the ability to spawn plenty of anoms in a single system.

While NPC Null could use something to make it more unique space (Just not conquerable stations. That idea was terrible and would kill NPC Null even faster), this would be an excellent band-aid to the syndicate region. Syndicate and the surrounding lowsec has been the birthplace for quite a few noticeable PVP entities, but it could use a bit of help to get it back into shape.
Gregor Lachlan
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2014-06-09 00:47:34 UTC
+1 for increasing chances of getting GROON capitals bubbled.
Aliventi
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#28 - 2014-06-09 15:35:29 UTC
Gregor Lachlan wrote:
+1 for increasing chances of getting GROON capitals bubbled.

If PL can't do it no one can!
Thelonious Blake
Miles Research and Development
#29 - 2014-06-09 15:48:57 UTC
Aliventi wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Well paying L4 empire faction NPC corps?

That's the thing. Currently we tell people if you need to make isk go away from where we live and run incursions or do l4 SoE missions in highsec. I would love to say "Hey! You can make great isk out here! Just run Intaki Syndicate missions and buy and sell faction items."

Currently Lowsec has Sec tags, Mordu's Legion Rats, FW sites, etc. Highsec has safe missions and incursions. SOV nullsec has aniom sites you can afk in an ishtar or VNI. NPC nullsec has no real source of income or anything that makes the space unique. It is the old useless lowsec with bombs and bubbles. I would love for CCP to address this and make NPC nullsec space unique and worth living in.


Pirate null does have pirate missions, other than that true. Syndy LP store sucks.

+1 for LP improvement for the Syndicate.
Aliventi
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#30 - 2014-06-10 18:39:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Aliventi
Bump! Syndicate could use some love!

Adding in an actual idea: Could Syndicate, Outer Ring, and Great Wildlands get Officer rats? All it would take would take would be for the following regions to get the same -1.0 truesec treatment that pirate NPC space gets. It would bring a nice boost to people ratting in the belts trying to farm the spawns.
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#31 - 2014-06-11 14:31:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshua Foiritain
Rovinia wrote:
Electrique Wizard wrote:
Mattpat139 Sukarala wrote:
How about syndicate ships for the next patch? I'm no gameplay expert so I'll just throw this in and let you all run with it


Think that'd just be Serpentis wouldnt it?


No, it's a seperate faction.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Syndicate

"...and their power increased through asteroid mining and black market trading..."

Hell, why not Intaki Mining Barges, Syndicate Rorquals or Intaki Security ships. Syndicate blockade Runners and Orcas? Or at least change the Edge implants to affect the strenght of combat boosters, not the side effects. Or both. Just give us something worth buying when missioning for them.

I mean, Syndicate (the region) is pretty popular for pvp'ers and well populated. But compared to other NPC-0.0 Regions like Stain it's just not worth running missions for them. Give our carebears something to do and earn their money here without going to empire space. Give the region a reason to live in it, not just to come here as a habit and pewpew.

For those who doupt the need for a change, check out the Intaki LP store. And start laughing (...or crying, depends if you live here or not) Ugh

+ Link to the Intaki LP-Store items +

This one is better; http://blitzmann.it.cx/lpStore/corporation/1000146/

Everything above 2k/lp is literally ****. Please help us CCP.

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Elisa Coreli
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#32 - 2014-06-11 21:52:25 UTC
This is a good idea.

Words

Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#33 - 2014-06-12 17:31:01 UTC
This should be on the front page.

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Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2014-06-12 19:03:06 UTC
Syndicate needs a boost and I need more expensive Interdictor lossmails.

CCP, please help!
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#35 - 2014-06-13 08:32:20 UTC
Once more back to the front page.

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Thelonious Blake
Miles Research and Development
#36 - 2014-06-13 21:31:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Thelonious Blake
Ideas that I have for Syndy LP store:

- Armor resist/repair modules which give about the same % as C or even B-type DED loot. Can only be acquired through Intaki LP.
- Propulsion modules again same stats as Core/Corelum B-type loot. Can only be acquired through Intaki LP.
- Tripple point scrams with mediocre range. Or in that spirit webs/scrams akin to the Serpentis modules' stats.
- Standard booster BPC (well that well might be pushing it over the limit, but it's worth considering).
- Put that faction cloak on their LP store!
- Magnetic Field Stabilizers, Sensor Boosters, Tracking Computers... Just add everything that's available for Gallente LP to the Syndicate LP and rename it accordingly. Maybe have their LP prices a little bit lowered so it's better ISK/LP - it's null sec missions after all.

Things that I saw in this thread and I like:

- Ship skins. Why not faction clothes too? I would pay for that.
- Interdiction bubbles and/or launchers.

EDIT: Oh, yeah and I forgot... Faction Ammo.

With just adding all the Gallente LP store stuff, renaming it and making their price to be about 30-40% lower than in Gallente FW you get >1500ish ISK/LP for stuff that you can actually sell. And this in my opinion will make some people actually consider doing missions in Syndicate.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#37 - 2014-06-13 21:49:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Syrias Bizniz
A new line of Pirate ships:

A Pirate destroyer, basically a faction interdictor variation with cool role bonuses geared towards dictor skills.
-Reload time, capacity, higher range, more charge hitpoints, maybe even bubble immunity, no cloaking-maluses, you name it.

A Pirate battlecruiser, basically a BC with Hictor capabilities. Tanky as hell, at least for a 'tech 1 BC', so it can withstand the punishment hictors are likely to receive, while having cool bonuses towards hictor-work.
-For example less severe penalties on module activation, less capuse / cycletime on the unscripted bubbles, cyno bonuses, probing bonuses.


All in all, a nullsec orientated disruption faction. Not for PvP in the traditional sense, where a ship is designed to be a wtf-pwn-mobile (see Mordu's line), but on a gang / fleet scale.
Where you might want to put your people into more shiny stuff just to get the job done better.


Edit:

A Bubble Launcher for Dictors that works more like a Bomb launcher, where you hurl a bubble at target location rather than bubble yourself?

Takes some skill to get that **** done without a cloak in a very dangerous environment that wants to get rid of you asap.

Risk vs reward, ya know.

Edit 2:

Warp Disruption drones:

5mbit, sentry-style, 0.2 warpscramble strength. Scales up to med and large for more range maybe?
(you'll need 5 of them applied to prevent someone from warping off, and killing one of it would make the whole flock useless, they also can't move and just as i write this it starts sounding like the worst drones of all time but whatever, maybe someone catches on to it and improves)
JD No7
V I R I I
#38 - 2014-06-13 22:03:51 UTC
NPC Null needs a fix full stop. But this would also be nice for our glorious Syndicate!
Elmnt80
Life. Universe. Everything.
#39 - 2014-06-14 00:27:25 UTC
Sadly, I don't think a major change to NPC null will happen until we see something happening to sov mechanics since the space is just way too useful as a staging area at present. However there is a chance that the anime technique will work in this case. Apply enough bandaids and everything is fixed! Big smile
Aliventi
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#40 - 2014-06-14 17:03:33 UTC
These changes would be rather small in scale but would have a huge impact upon a region.