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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#601 - 2014-04-28 13:55:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldiiee
Talia Valta wrote:
Hi,

Firstly, thanks for all the info you guys have provided, it's been a great help.

Secondly, I'd like to try out a few incursions but I've never done it before.

I'm willing to work from the ground up as it would be a challenge to learn something new on this scale.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a english speaking, EU tz fleets, and training provider please?

Once again thanks for all the info.


If your just starting out you probably are working on a finite budget, assuming that's correct I would say pop into TVP's (The Valhalla Project) chat and see what you can afford to bring that they will accept in a fleet.

If I am wrong and you have a fairly generous budget you can try some of the more 'high end only' groups like ISN, WIN, Warp To Me, and Helix. As far as picking the right one goes? I would recommend any of them as a good group to start with, or stay with.

Be honest on what you can afford and what you have skills for, and they will work with you to get the right fit and ISK to make it work better.

All that being said pretty much any group listed in the OP will do the same thing in getting you started and making you feel comfortable, it is to their benefit to have well prepared and qualified pilots willing to form up and make ISK, hope that helps a little.

Feel free to ask as questions in chat channels, here in the forums or on voice comms the more you ask the less likely there will be a misunderstanding that relieves you or someone your supposed to be protecting of their ship, Smile.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#602 - 2014-04-29 20:26:14 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:

*snipped*

If your just starting out you probably are working on a finite budget, assuming that's correct I would say pop into TVP's (The Valhalla Project) chat and see what you can afford to bring that they will accept in a fleet.

If I am wrong and you have a fairly generous budget you can try some of the more 'high end only' groups like ISN, WIN, Warp To Me, and Helix. As far as picking the right one goes? I would recommend any of them as a good group to start with, or stay with.
*more good advice snipped*


Warp To Me is actually only a "high end only" about the needed resists and tank. While their fits want a deadspace EM passive with the t2 invulns, these are still relatively cheap compared to the cost of a hull, and WTM is still officially first come, first in.

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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#603 - 2014-05-12 22:23:28 UTC
Added TIG and a link to their web page to the OP.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Oxide Ammar
#604 - 2014-05-14 08:27:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Oxide Ammar
Is this fit viable after Kronos drones changes hit live ?

[Dominix Navy Issue, Incursion]

Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Tracking Speed Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link, Tracking Speed Script
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Script
Gist X-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive

425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L
425mm Railgun II, Javelin L

Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Large Core Defense Field Extender II
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II


Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Curator II x5


Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Motion Prediction MR-703
Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Gunnery RF-903
Zainou 'Deadeye' Large Hybrid Turret LH-1003

Taking into consideration that fit can do slightly better dps with faction/deadspace(?) DDA that will introduced.

Edit: Ofc if I swap rails to blasters will result better numbers, but I was thinking of this fit as sniper domi.

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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#605 - 2014-05-14 15:18:57 UTC
Oxide Ammar wrote:
Is this fit viable after Kronos drones changes hit live ?

[Dominix Navy Issue, Incursion]

''Fit Clipped out''.

I honestly don't have a good answer for you, the major problem of using a drone boat is having to sit on your drones during a site. Most fleets (For AS and HQ) move a few times during the site to keep the range at optimal for as long as possible, so dropping drones then scooping drones then drop again seems a little inefficient to me. Not to mention if a drone gets room agro and pops the aggro swap almost always goes all over the place rather than to another single boat, this make the Logi's life a living hell and can cause a lot of stress on comms.

I guess we will just have to wait and see, perhaps a innovative FC or Group can come up with a way to make the benefits of using drones outweigh the disadvantages inherent in their use.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Konyali Loki
Sanchez's Little Helpers
#606 - 2014-05-15 14:41:19 UTC
hey,

I used to run vanguards with armor legion ( we blitzed with tdf group)
back then the legion was a popular chiose of a ship

how about now? legion is still accepted in vanguards?
Xylem Viliana
homeless bum
#607 - 2014-05-15 15:51:55 UTC
Konyali Loki wrote:
hey,

I used to run vanguards with armor legion ( we blitzed with tdf group)
back then the legion was a popular chiose of a ship

how about now? legion is still accepted in vanguards?


Legion does still work in VG's. I dont think it is as effective as it once was but i believe that a legion is still accepted within TDF.
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#608 - 2014-05-15 16:36:56 UTC
Having flown with WTM, it's not so much that they demand a deadspace EM shield amp, it's that they don't want an active EM hardener that'll crap out if you get hit by neuts and leave you with a wide-open EM resistance hole, and with lower compensation skills, it takes a deadspace amp to get you to 70%. I was accepted into my first WTM fleet with a TeFI with a Guristas EM amp (thanks to decent compensation skills) and nothing else over T2.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#609 - 2014-05-16 12:54:15 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
Having flown with WTM, it's not so much that they demand a deadspace EM shield amp, it's that they don't want an active EM hardener that'll crap out if you get hit by neuts and leave you with a wide-open EM resistance hole, and with lower compensation skills, it takes a deadspace amp to get you to 70%. I was accepted into my first WTM fleet with a TeFI with a Guristas EM amp (thanks to decent compensation skills) and nothing else over T2.


Quick let's all trash our Pith-As invuln because we might cap out under Otuni's neuts leaving us with a gaping omni hole...
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#610 - 2014-05-19 09:03:42 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Marc Callan wrote:
Having flown with WTM, it's not so much that they demand a deadspace EM shield amp, it's that they don't want an active EM hardener that'll crap out if you get hit by neuts and leave you with a wide-open EM resistance hole, and with lower compensation skills, it takes a deadspace amp to get you to 70%. I was accepted into my first WTM fleet with a TeFI with a Guristas EM amp (thanks to decent compensation skills) and nothing else over T2.


Quick let's all trash our Pith-As invuln because we might cap out under Otuni's neuts leaving us with a gaping omni hole...

There's a reason WTM is listed as a training channel. People may not know to spam hardeners when under neuts, lie about fits, etc. WTM's resist profile makes sense, given their target demographic. Still can't understand the LSE on rohks though.

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Sentenced 1989
#611 - 2014-05-21 12:09:14 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
Added TIG and a link to their web page to the OP.


Thank you for editing link, cheers

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Tabs27
Eclipse Strike Unit
Jump On Contact..
#612 - 2014-06-05 09:45:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Tabs27
Hey, could you add my Incursions in please? I founded RsRm Incursions and FC shield vanguards weekly, my channel is 'RsRm Incursions'. Thanks!

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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#613 - 2014-06-05 13:56:24 UTC
Tabs27 wrote:
Hey, could you add my Incursions in please? I founded RsRm Incursions and FC shield vanguards weekly, my channel is 'RsRm Incursions'. Thanks!

Hey Tabs27,
I have been away from the game due to lack of reliable Internet for the last few months, so I have been relegated to forum warrior and skill training only, so I haven't had the opportunity to check on your group and see how and what you fly. So a little more information is needed like armor or shield, and what times you fly and I will get your group added to the OP.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Sentenced 1989
#614 - 2014-06-07 22:10:45 UTC
Hey man, why is TIG in armor section? :D

We use both shield and armor at the same time, and we are more in tune with shields since we usually have more shield ship and we started as shield pirate fleet :D

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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#615 - 2014-06-07 22:38:09 UTC
Sentenced 1989 wrote:
Hey man, why is TIG in armor section? :D

We use both shield and armor at the same time, and we are more in tune with shields since we usually have more shield ship and we started as shield pirate fleet :D

It's all very confusing, Shield...Armour...Hull...

Fixed it for you, sort of, still had to drop you in one or the other so we will leave you in shield fleets this month Big smile

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
Sentenced 1989
#616 - 2014-06-08 07:16:33 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
Sentenced 1989 wrote:
Hey man, why is TIG in armor section? :D

We use both shield and armor at the same time, and we are more in tune with shields since we usually have more shield ship and we started as shield pirate fleet :D

It's all very confusing, Shield...Armour...Hull...

Fixed it for you, sort of, still had to drop you in one or the other so we will leave you in shield fleets this month Big smile


Thank you.

Thing is, we use marauders and fly VG's only, local tanked, so we can allow ourselves both types of ships. However, we do take ships from local in time to time and we prefer them to be shield so we can more easily spider rep them...

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Ahz
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#617 - 2014-06-08 18:17:27 UTC
Thanks for the extremely useful thread.

90M SP Toon away from the game for two years.

Think Incursions might be a great way to get back into the game.

I can fit and fly a Mach but don't want to lay down the 1.5b - 2.0b ISK to get all shiny unless just to try them out.

I've got a Tempest lying around that I can pimp out, or am I better off bringing a Scimi (logistics 5 cap stable)?

Would probably only want to fly one or two missions like this to convince myself this is the right investment.

If I like it I'll happily spring for the blingy Mach.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#618 - 2014-06-08 18:26:53 UTC
Ahz wrote:
Thanks for the extremely useful thread.

90M SP Toon away from the game for two years.

Think Incursions might be a great way to get back into the game.

I can fit and fly a Mach but don't want to lay down the 1.5b - 2.0b ISK to get all shiny unless just to try them out.

I've got a Tempest lying around that I can pimp out, or am I better off bringing a Scimi (logistics 5 cap stable)?

Would probably only want to fly one or two missions like this to convince myself this is the right investment.

If I like it I'll happily spring for the blingy Mach.

If you can fly good logi, it is more likely to get some kind of fleet much more quickly than a standard tempest. while lows and highs are almost universal (3 CPR, damage control or sigamp) mids vary from 5 links to 2 links for unshiny scimi based on community.
Carrying the following is likely to help you get fleet fastest if you are agnostic about community:
5 TLs, preferably faction
Afterburner
2 Invulns
2 t1 or 1 t2 data analyzer (used to be codebreaker)

Only a small number of communities use MWD scimis, but for those you need:
MWD
2 cap recharger

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Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#619 - 2014-06-20 14:08:20 UTC
Bump for access.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#620 - 2014-06-22 16:03:26 UTC
Member of CSM is trying to get feedback about incursions and things people want to see. So give the nice man your input, and say thanks mike.

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