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Minor Sujestions (missions)

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Krameht Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-06-07 22:24:16 UTC
Hello all,

I'm a returning on and off player and I have established why I struggle to fully immerse myself within the EVEiverse
I must point out that I am a mission runner and don't particularly know or want to about pvp aspects tbh but this is just and opinion.

To me as of right now there is no engrossment in missions. It's a load of text, one place, one objective come back.
Now this suggestion is probably more suited to Story-line missions as to not affect isk/h for everyone. But does anyone feel like a few game engine cut scenes or just camera changes with focus on warp ins add a bit more drama? EvE lore needs to be pushed more in these missions.
For example; the reinforcement warp in. Right now it's a little blue message and some red blips appear.
An improvement to this in my eyes would be to have the camera focus on the entry point of the group and zoom in to see the bubbles and see ships actually appear. This would (hopefully add more drama and depth to the gameplay)

Also almost all green, blue and popup mission text is someone talking to you or your on board computer giving you infomation (which has a voice)
wouldn't these feel better being utilized with some extra voice acting? Because I have only noticed them long after the mission was over because I'm in fleet or corp and don't care about local as much mid mission

Missions themselves could be overhauled easily as well.
Missions with Parts should be one mission with a progressing story-iline maybe involving comms to the agent to report developments (Ie you've collect and read it and reported back) give the next objective. This would add a sense of progression and real contribution to the cause.

And side missions would be a good addition to get more in depth. Bringing actual lore, back stories and reasoning into play.
Again this makes the player feel like their actions have actual contribution instead of just watching their isk counter go up

And a final suggestion would be to be part of npc fights more instead of inspecting aftermaths all the time, we should be have mission where we need to be part of an npc wing and do battle.

Thanks
(I am prepared for the shots to be fired but this is just an opinion and a realization as to why I can't stick with this game
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-06-07 22:37:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Doc, when are you going to fix the FuryBot?

OP, see signature. Stop doing missions, they are not meant to keep you here. The experiences you have with people are what keep you here.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Krameht Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-06-07 23:28:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Krameht Maken
Is that your contribution? Wow it's not like I posted suggestions followed by reasoning and rationality but sure add an irrelevant ride along suggestion and a snarky remark about your sig ;)
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2014-06-07 23:38:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
It's not my fault if you can't read between the lines. I'm not going to spell it out for you. Figure it out yourself.

What I can tell you is that people have been suggesting improvements to missions since the beginning of the game and they have done little to nothing about it. Why do you think that is?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Krameht Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-06-07 23:42:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Krameht Maken
I get you think PvP is better and that is your personal opionion, I respect that but unfortunately I am not here to blow up others unless I have to I am far more interested in the lore and the story etc but the content to provide this in game is lacking
Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2014-06-07 23:46:01 UTC
You are supposed to create your own content, not have it spoon fed to you. That is how the game is designed. If you want to ignore that you will not ever have fun here.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Krameht Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-06-07 23:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Krameht Maken
.......
Paranoid Loyd
#8 - 2014-06-07 23:53:38 UTC
What ego? I am trying to explain to you that you want the game to be designed in a certain way and it is simply not designed that way.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#9 - 2014-06-07 23:55:10 UTC
As apparently the OP is not interested in a civil pro/contra discussion, this thread gets a lock.
In other words, answering someone who does not agree with you with personal attacks, is not the best way to keep a discussion going.

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Krameht Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-06-07 23:55:22 UTC
how do you know? are you a dev of a global MMO?
Paranoid Loyd
#11 - 2014-06-07 23:57:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Krameht Maken wrote:
how do you know? are you a dev of a global MMO?


No I am not. I already gave you my reasoning for why I know: This suggestion comes up all the time and nothing is ever done about it. There are currently probably 5 or more threads open with similar suggestions. Roll

Sir Ezwal, you forgot to push the lock button. Please see tuxford for instructions. Lol

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Krameht Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-06-08 00:00:55 UTC
ok, well to me that is not can't be done, that is won't be done.
Paranoid Loyd
#13 - 2014-06-08 00:01:59 UTC
When did I say can't?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

D20 Rollings
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-06-08 00:02:06 UTC
In after the lock!
Checks another item off of bucket list.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...  Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those... moments... will be lost in time, like  tears... in... rain. Time... to die...

Krameht Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-06-08 00:03:47 UTC
Indireclty

Quote:
you want the game to be designed in a certain way and it is simply not designed that way.


To me it is a supply and demand thing and its all about demand (but a nicer way of saying demand)
Paranoid Loyd
#16 - 2014-06-08 00:07:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
So you do understand the concept of reading between the lines. You simply lack the capacity to understand what is being said. Granted, there seems to be a language barrier so I can't blame you for that.

That is not what I meant.

I meant the game is a sandbox as opposed to a theme park. You have fun by making your own sandcastles or destroying others (Player created content) not by riding the rides (spoon fed content).

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Krameht Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-06-08 00:11:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Krameht Maken
For the record though PvP is nothing like PvE I really don't get how it can be a transitional phase. The fits are different the tactics the ships and the situations. There is nothing from learnt from PvE that can help in PvP
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#18 - 2014-06-08 00:13:35 UTC
ISD Ezwal wrote:
As apparently the OP is not interested in a civil pro/contra discussion, this thread gets a lock.
In other words, answering someone who does not agree with you with personal attacks, is not the best way to keep a discussion going.

The Rules:
3. Ranting is prohibited.

A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.


4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.


Hate to be that guy, but...

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Paranoid Loyd
#19 - 2014-06-08 00:14:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Krameht Maken wrote:
For the record though PvP is nothing like PvE I really don't get how it can be a transitional phase. The fits are different the tactics the ships and the situations. There is nothing from learnt from PvE that can help in PvP


I completely agree with that. If any changes are made to the missions it should be that they are made to require you to fight the NPCs like you would a real person. That way PVP wouldn't be this unreachable milestone to those that don't understand it.

If you want to get your feet wet without a whole lot of risk, look into faction warfare. It is a nice balance between PVE and PVP. You can make lots of isk that will easily cover the ships you will inevitably lose.

Meet people and talk with them, especially the ones that kill you.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Krameht Maken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-06-08 00:18:35 UTC
So either they should transition into PvP style play

Or they could be engrossing more from the First post.

Because right now they're in the middle and not working
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