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Rent in Khanid/Kor-Azor, Surely You're Joking (We're not)

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Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#121 - 2014-06-07 20:20:20 UTC
I have now lived about a decade in the Khanid / Aridia area, and can say I fully support this service (more traffic is good); not that I have any intention of paying.

SYJ: Thanks for taking all of Musa's towers down; enjoy your time on the throne while here. I would rec moving to Nandeza however...

Karash Amerius Operative, Sutoka
Vivec Septim
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#122 - 2014-06-08 02:42:12 UTC
Renting in High-Sec is nothing more than intimidation with very little to back it up -- in essence you are paying 'protection' money to people that are often the ones wanting to break your legs. Frack that.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. 
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#123 - 2014-06-08 08:39:20 UTC
Vivec Septim wrote:
Renting in High-Sec is nothing more than intimidation with very little to back it up -- in essence you are paying 'protection' money to people that are often the ones wanting to break your legs. Frack that.

Interesting bit of advice. Its fortunate that noone is talking about renting high-sec systems. Perhaps a new alliance could start doing that.

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Catalytic morphisis
Deep Space Coalition
Fraternity.
#124 - 2014-06-08 21:20:33 UTC
this is genious, Well played guys

I think I might take up that idea about renting high sec systems! Might have to go tower bash when I get back and charge people to place towers in "my HS system"

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Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#125 - 2014-06-08 22:58:59 UTC
Catalytic morphisis wrote:
this is genious, Well played guys

I think I might take up that idea about renting high sec systems! Might have to go tower bash when I get back and charge people to place towers in "my HS system"



Well if you can find an area in highsec that is as in demand as certain lowsec systems, by all means give it a try.
Catalytic morphisis
Deep Space Coalition
Fraternity.
#126 - 2014-06-08 23:32:24 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Catalytic morphisis wrote:
this is genious, Well played guys

I think I might take up that idea about renting high sec systems! Might have to go tower bash when I get back and charge people to place towers in "my HS system"



Well if you can find an area in highsec that is as in demand as certain lowsec systems, by all means give it a try.


mid way point between trade hubs are quite nice for Builders due to better access to 2 x hub and a centralized construction zone, I just fly between amarr and Jita and bash every single POS there, Bound to **** people off who do High sec construction along that route, then I just tell them that they can pay me a weekly/monthly fee to keep their POS safe and/or sell the moons to people, Will probably need to get my alliance involved but could be some good fun for us, Maybe someone will actually bite back Smile

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Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#127 - 2014-06-08 23:40:14 UTC
Catalytic morphisis wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Catalytic morphisis wrote:
this is genious, Well played guys

I think I might take up that idea about renting high sec systems! Might have to go tower bash when I get back and charge people to place towers in "my HS system"



Well if you can find an area in highsec that is as in demand as certain lowsec systems, by all means give it a try.


mid way point between trade hubs are quite nice for Builders due to better access to 2 x hub and a centralized construction zone, I just fly between amarr and Jita and bash every single POS there, Bound to **** people off who do High sec construction along that route, then I just tell them that they can pay me a weekly/monthly fee to keep their POS safe and/or sell the moons to people, Will probably need to get my alliance involved but could be some good fun for us, Maybe someone will actually bite back Smile



Try it if you want but people are more likely to listen to you if you work with them. For example I don't just tell people "pay me or i'll blow you up" I try to involve them in a community, to work with each other, grow and expand their corps etc.
Catalytic morphisis
Deep Space Coalition
Fraternity.
#128 - 2014-06-08 23:53:25 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Catalytic morphisis wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Catalytic morphisis wrote:
this is genious, Well played guys

I think I might take up that idea about renting high sec systems! Might have to go tower bash when I get back and charge people to place towers in "my HS system"



Well if you can find an area in highsec that is as in demand as certain lowsec systems, by all means give it a try.


mid way point between trade hubs are quite nice for Builders due to better access to 2 x hub and a centralized construction zone, I just fly between amarr and Jita and bash every single POS there, Bound to **** people off who do High sec construction along that route, then I just tell them that they can pay me a weekly/monthly fee to keep their POS safe and/or sell the moons to people, Will probably need to get my alliance involved but could be some good fun for us, Maybe someone will actually bite back Smile



Try it if you want but people are more likely to listen to you if you work with them. For example I don't just tell people "pay me or i'll blow you up" I try to involve them in a community, to work with each other, grow and expand their corps etc.


This is a good idea/concept and at the minute I'm only brainstorming it but I think thats a better approach than blowing everyone up, Only do that if they threaten the cause or if the moon is bought by someone else, I like it, When I get back to a country with usable internet I am going to give this a go, Also thanks to your low sec effort I will be roaming down that end from now on :)

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Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#129 - 2014-06-09 08:18:44 UTC
Catalytic morphisis wrote:
this is genious, Well played guys

I think I might take up that idea about renting high sec systems! Might have to go tower bash when I get back and charge people to place towers in "my HS system"


Try Jasson and it's adjacent highsec pocket. Square in the middle of lowsec Aridia.
Catalytic morphisis
Deep Space Coalition
Fraternity.
#130 - 2014-06-09 09:27:05 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Catalytic morphisis wrote:
this is genious, Well played guys

I think I might take up that idea about renting high sec systems! Might have to go tower bash when I get back and charge people to place towers in "my HS system"


Try Jasson and it's adjacent highsec pocket. Square in the middle of lowsec Aridia.


good call

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Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#131 - 2014-06-10 01:20:05 UTC
How much to crash on your couch?
Vivec Septim
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#132 - 2014-06-10 02:08:20 UTC
To anyone here considering this -- don't. Go to Null-sec. Safer, by far, than this shady and hard to enforce bull.

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. 
Catalytic morphisis
Deep Space Coalition
Fraternity.
#133 - 2014-06-10 02:40:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Catalytic morphisis
Vivec Septim wrote:
To anyone here considering this -- don't. Go to Null-sec. Safer, by far, than this shady and hard to enforce bull.


I don't think you really understand what it is they're trying to do here if you think that, He's trying to build a larger community of people in the area all connected and able to work together and form relations and alliances using a pretty quiet area, with them all chipping in to achieve a common goal which is to survive/thrive in low sec. If you can't see that then you should just go revert to being another guy in 0.0 ratting a dead system alone with no real relations other than your FC's coming on TS ordering you to get in fleet

Edit: Not saying every 0.0 alliance/corp is like that but if you can't understand the aim then you may aswell go join one of the ones that are just that

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Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#134 - 2014-06-10 22:32:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph IX Basarab
Catalytic morphisis wrote:
Vivec Septim wrote:
To anyone here considering this -- don't. Go to Null-sec. Safer, by far, than this shady and hard to enforce bull.


I don't think you really understand what it is they're trying to do here if you think that, He's trying to build a larger community of people in the area all connected and able to work together and form relations and alliances using a pretty quiet area, with them all chipping in to achieve a common goal which is to survive/thrive in low sec. If you can't see that then you should just go revert to being another guy in 0.0 ratting a dead system alone with no real relations other than your FC's coming on TS ordering you to get in fleet

Edit: Not saying every 0.0 alliance/corp is like that but if you can't understand the aim then you may aswell go join one of the ones that are just that



Exactly. People hear "rent" and they imagine systems full of carebear botters afk ratting their billions. If that's what you are looking for, no don't come to us. I can give the example of our first client, Black Phoenix Operatives. They were small corp with many of its members actually being Dust players. They wanted to "get more" into Eve and came to us for that. They started out flying Cruisers and Battle Cruisers with a few T3s and now can support a full armor T3 wing of their own.

Now did these guys go and find some quiet hole to hide in? No, they formed up their own fleets, got the other clients in fleets with them and went on ops fighting anyone left in Khanid that wasn't with us. They flew in joint fleets with SYJ, set up clever traps for hot dropper N3 entities,

They took the initiative to be a competent and strong entity within Khanid and were always looking to see what else they could do. For that they were asked by us to join the alliance and have recently done so. Now not all clients have to follow this course. If you want to be a quiet industrialist in your quiet pocket of lowsec, that's completely fine. My point however is that there are a variety of options and possibilities to those that get themselves involved.
Paul Tsukaya
Doomheim
#135 - 2014-06-11 23:36:43 UTC
While this whole deal seems somewhat suspect on the surface, from my personal experience dealing with Surely You're Joking is that they're an honest alliance.
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#136 - 2014-06-22 04:52:54 UTC
With the new update (thukker tower for cap building in lowsec etc), Khanid's a prime place to be.
Freemannr1
Eternal Crusade
#137 - 2014-06-22 17:44:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Freemannr1
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Any time there is a unique or different idea presented, you'll have the "old school crowd" that feel they need to discredit it before it even takes full effect. But again, the motivations for this have been touched upon.



Hi

Just wanted to add that I and my corp [SOTG] did this 8-9 years ago . and it did work.

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/default.asp?a=topic&threadID=229660&page=1#10

Would be funny if it worked now.. with all the isk in wh, null and even high sec... low sec is dead(FW low is not)
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#138 - 2014-06-23 01:09:40 UTC
Freemannr1 wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Any time there is a unique or different idea presented, you'll have the "old school crowd" that feel they need to discredit it before it even takes full effect. But again, the motivations for this have been touched upon.



Hi

Just wanted to add that I and my corp [SOTG] did this 8-9 years ago . and it did work.

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/default.asp?a=topic&threadID=229660&page=1#10

Would be funny if it worked now.. with all the isk in wh, null and even high sec... low sec is dead(FW low is not)



Oh it's been working for the past few months actually. I think it's a great way to populate regions that would normally be empty.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#139 - 2014-06-23 17:26:56 UTC
I don't know these guys, or if any of this is going to work. But huge props to them for bringing in emergent gameplay, as advertised, to the sandbox.

All the naysayers can get ****** for all I care.

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Maichin Civire
#140 - 2014-06-23 19:47:19 UTC
Low security systems renting.

I've came through many... strange ideas, but this is so far the strangest Big smile