Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not even 4 hours passed since it was the smart way to play Eve.

CCP have said they'd like to change the ability to swap from one player corp into another player corp during a war. I think they are fine with ppl dropping to NPC corps, however.

The first would take some tricks to implement without preventing the latter.

But the latter would be straight forward to implement, so if CCP currently wanted you being unable to leave a corp in war at all, then they definitely could do that.

Do you have a link to where CCP gives their thoughts in war dodging?

*EDIT* to add question.

oh my god.

i bet u cant wait for star citizen.

Stop thinking of them as "safe" areas. Its the carebear attitude that they are in a safe place and its a bad thing that they can be attacked that is wrong. The guy giving the presentation at fanfest 2012 repeatedly made that clear by saying:

'If u are in a player corp, u can get decced whether u like it or not. This is the price of being in a player corp'

And the reason ppl keep thinking they are broken is because ppl keep thinking their should be arbitrary rules about how fights happen in hi-sec. Each restrictive mechanic reinforces the carebears belief that ppl should have to jump through hoops to attack them or, like this thread, that neut RR should not be allowed. Then when they see that attacking other players is not difficult, they whine like the ppl in this thread rather than realising its meant to happen. u are meant to be wardecced by other players, you are meant to be able to assist ur friends, your meant to pit ur assets and abilties against other corps.

But dnt worry, if ur not ready there is, and always will be, NPC corps. The place ur meant to be if u dnt like facing off against others (i mean besides in another game altogether).

Welcome to eve online, the place where u fight against other players, militarily, socially, economically, politically. High-sec or no-sec. Consent or no consent.

Once u get around that u'll see wars need barely any rules at all to be 'unbroken'. The only thing i'd push for is ways for the defenders to take the initiative and end a dec prematurely by completing something.

like a structure bash [/shameless plug]



if u dnt want wars, ur playing the wrong game.

other MMO's are that way --->

Thank you very much!

i refer ppl to star citizen when they dnt want to PvP. Its not a PvP game according to its creators. PvP encounters are decided by sliders and is pretty much only consensual in the most un-sandbox way. good thing they have a non-sandbox economy to match.

im looking forward to an exodus of carebears from this game to that one. it'll be like beating cancer.

Read up on the rules.

You can flag yourself as "PvE" and then entering instances with other "PvE" people but still with full PvP enabled - sounds good?

What do you think the griefers are gonna flag themselves as?

the fact that there are separate 'instances' destroys the entire point of having one universe. it isquite hilarious that even if u find out someones name, where they are going and when they'll be there, u may still not be able to intercept them because of instances. way to add meaning to ur game. at the very highest of hopes u may get a handful of players in one place before the server goes 'me no likey' and either crashes or sends players to another 'instance'.

and u think that kind of tactic is going to be allowed for long in a non-PvP game? Goons are already discriminated against on the SC forums. So terrified of goons they ban them for almost anything, thinking every word they type is trolling. Thats how much they love griefing.

like kaarous says, if ppl start shooting eachother when their slider is all the way to PvE, they will make it so that u have an equivalent of EVE's green safety until u put ur slider to PvP, at which point u barely see anyone. most importantly u dnt see ppls indy chars. Making industry so safe that competition is dead and the economy is only saved by the fact that NPC's intervene. U'll be so happy that no matter what u do, NPC's will be there to make sure u dnt **** the game up or have any meaningful impact. Yay power to the players NPC overlords.