Player Features and Ideas Discussion

where is the loss? you get to choose whether play for a $5 a $10, a $20, etc, and still play $4 to play the game

Not to mention, there usually are more than 2 coins

DotLan.

I use EveEye myself rather than DotLan, but I'm pretty sure there's a setting on Dotlan to tell you recent ship kills/pod kills in the last 1h/24h. It's not hard to use Eve-Kill or zKill to see what was killed in those systems, by whom it was killed and when the kill took place.

Gankers have been known to watch potentially-tasty systems over a period of time to see what sort of targets tend to fly through them, how those targets tend to be fitted and how much stuff those targets tend to carry. You can do the same thing: watch potentially-risky systems to see what sort of gank fleets hang around in them, when they tend to appear and what sort of fleet composition they most often fly in. You can find the names of those gankers and add them to your watchlist (there's a reason it's not called a friend list) as -10 so that whenever they're online you know it and can look for them.

So much easy vigilance, yet you do none of it. What a disgrace.

Heres a challange for bear haulers.

Every time you reach you destination you roll a dice for every stack of items in your hold, on 1 2 3 you keep it, on 4 5 6 you delete it.Also you have to delete you ship and everything fitted also gets the dice roll. You also cannot undock for 15 min in anything other than your pod. You also take a sec hit. Kill rights can go to the guy you just undercut in the market.

as do haulers know they are worthwhile before the gank happens. in fact, a hauler can know if hes worthwhile before he undocks. what the gankers dnt know is exactly what back up the hauler is bringing with him.

my god man. some ppl wont be happy until ganking is made impossible.

- carebear is stupid
- gets ganked
- whines on forums
- ganking gets nerfed
- the rewards of hauling are lowered
- gankers adapt
- carebear doesn't adapt and is still stupid
- gets ganked
- whines on forums
- ganking gets nerfed
- the rewards of hauling are lowered again
- and so on...

Maybe you aren't aware of all the coordination and preplanning that goes into a freighter gank.

Maybe you aren't aware of how easy it is to not be the victim of a freighter gank.

Maybe you should stop flying a freighter.

Wait, nevermind. I have a strong suspicion that MiniLuv already helped you with that problem - am I right?


However, if you must persist, I will answer your questions.

It does not matter which fleets are there - always assume tornado/talos fleets with a bumping ship.

The DPS of any gank fleet is always sufficient to cleanly kill a freighter until proven otherwise.

If it really makes you uncomfortable to not have eyes in a system then either make a friend that isn't Aura or put an alt in that system before you're within 5 jumps of it.

They get realtime info because they scout ahead of themselves with an alt.

If you do the same, you get the same benefit.

haulers handpick their cargo, and their escorts.

sigh all u want, nerfing ganking just means even crapper rewards for haulers doing it right.

Nerfs to ganking mean crappier everything for everyone.

Chaosgrimm just doesn't realize it because he's too busy being myopic about the whole thing.


Any good scout should be able to assess several ships - and do it quickly. They ought to be more than able to determine ships are intended to scan potential gank targets as well as the gank fleet itself. If your scout can't do this, they shouldn't be a scout in the first place.

haulers who are "doing it right" take losses in the form of opportunity costs.
What do the gankers who "do it right" lose?