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Any info when eve is playable on Windows XP again?
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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#61 - 2011-12-05 09:52:55 UTC
Jojo Jackson wrote:
Alexa Coates wrote:
why are you still using XP? Come on even schools are upgrading to 7 now.

Never touch a running system ;).

Win7 offers nothing over WinXP ... except MORE COLLORS.
I don't know a singel program, which does not work under XP except DX11 which noone need.

And it would take several DAYS for a full switch.


Well if I remember correctly with windows 7 my computer actually uses the 8 gig ram I inserted, unlike XP.

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Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2011-12-05 09:56:50 UTC
This thread is going to hell, with 90% of the posters not even getting the point. Lol
I just hope some peeps at CCP is working on this..

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#63 - 2011-12-05 09:58:30 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
Well if I remember correctly with windows 7 my computer actually uses the 8 gig ram I inserted, unlike XP.
You remember incorrectly, for two reasons:

Windows 7 does not automatically mean you can use 8GB.
Windows XP does not automatically mean you cannot use 8GB.
Marcus Harikari
#64 - 2011-12-05 09:58:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Marcus Harikari wrote:
The only thing wrong is lack of support for over 4GB of RAM.
*sigh* Roll

Good news: XP is fairly easy to alter so it supports over 4GB of RAM.

Do tell. Then what reasons are left for upgrading? I don't see any. Lack of native DVD burning? LOL, it's much easier to get a program than to change your OS. And I don't really have many crash problems with XP, not enough to make me want to upgrade. Vista was awful.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#65 - 2011-12-05 10:07:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Marcus Harikari wrote:
Do tell. Then what reasons are left for upgrading? I don't see any. Lack of native DVD burning? LOL, it's much easier to get a program than to change your OS. And I don't really have many crash problems with XP, not enough to make me want to upgrade. Vista was awful.

Just google for “alter XP for more than 4GB" or something to that effect, and you should be able to find a few guides.

…and then you can do the same to alter Vista and Win7 for the same purpose.

The thing about the 4GB limitation is that it's something Microsoft has coded into the OS as part of the license if you buy a 32-bit version of any of their consumer OSes — you can make the OS skip/ignore/misread that license and thus gain access to more RAM (for comparison, many of the old 32bit server versions of windows would let you run with 16 or even 64GB RAM out of the box). It's not an actual limit of the system, and hasn't been since… oh… 1995 or so. It's just good old MS saying “Oh, so you paid that much for your OS? Well, then you get this much RAM to play with”.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#66 - 2011-12-05 10:15:33 UTC
Well, In the end, its up to you, what OS you will use. But dont expect to have support for dinosaur old OS. If you like MS-DOS, then use it, but without support. If you like Win7, use it and with support.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#67 - 2011-12-05 10:27:08 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
Well, In the end, its up to you, what OS you will use. But dont expect to have support for dinosaur old OS. If you like MS-DOS, then use it, but without support. If you like Win7, use it and with support.

…and since XP is supported by both CCP and MS, that's what the OP is asking for.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#68 - 2011-12-05 10:52:38 UTC
Tippia wrote:


The thing about the 4GB limitation is that it's something Microsoft has coded into the OS as part of the license if you buy a 32-bit version of any of their consumer OSes — you can make the OS skip/ignore/misread that license and thus gain access to more RAM (for comparison, many of the old 32bit server versions of windows would let you run with 16 or even 64GB RAM out of the box). It's not an actual limit of the system, and hasn't been since… oh… 1995 or so. It's just good old MS saying “Oh, so you paid that much for your OS? Well, then you get this much RAM to play with”.


You got any sources to back that up?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#69 - 2011-12-05 11:10:21 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
You got any sources to back that up?
Will Microsoft's own SKU listing do?
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#70 - 2011-12-05 12:01:31 UTC
i hope they dont. Simply to force you to upgrade.

Old, unmaintained OS's is the primary reason for botnets / ddos / general trashyness of today's internet.

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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#71 - 2011-12-05 12:12:04 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
i hope they dont. Simply to force you to upgrade.

Old, unmaintained OS's is the primary reason for botnets / ddos / general trashyness of today's internet.


No, the primary reason for those things is end-user stupidity.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#72 - 2011-12-05 12:17:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Windows Vista is only supported until 2012, while Win XP is supported until 2014.

When I get a new machine, I shall go from Win XP to Linux. Win ME then Virusta was enough M$ for me.

Edit:

New Hardware -> bloated software -> new hardware -> repeat.

Have a look at the 64KB and 128KB graphics demonstrations. Example

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#73 - 2011-12-05 12:19:10 UTC
I'm running XP and haven't noticed any issues with Crucible, if anything I can run a single or multiple clients much more smoothly.

I'd upgrade if there was an issue with using XP but there isn't. It's amusing to see so many people bent out of shape over the OS someone they don't know uses but this thread could still be on page 1 and be much more informative if you morons would stop being so compulsive.

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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2011-12-05 12:20:28 UTC
Tippia wrote:

Just google for “alter XP for more than 4GB" or something to that effect, and you should be able to find a few guides.

…and then you can do the same to alter Vista and Win7 for the same purpose.

The thing about the 4GB limitation is that it's something Microsoft has coded into the OS as part of the license if you buy a 32-bit version of any of their consumer OSes — you can make the OS skip/ignore/misread that license and thus gain access to more RAM (for comparison, many of the old 32bit server versions of windows would let you run with 16 or even 64GB RAM out of the box). It's not an actual limit of the system, and hasn't been since… oh… 1995 or so. It's just good old MS saying “Oh, so you paid that much for your OS? Well, then you get this much RAM to play with”.

Since XP's service pack 2, changes to the HAL have made this procedure very different. You can edit the kernel, but expect problems.
Furthermore, driver and application support would be horrendous. It's already bad enough with XP 64bit, but hacked?
Besides, a 64bit processor is a requirement (Of course). Then there's the issue of XP having very poor 4+ core support. If you use XP, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

Also, Microsoft aren't evil any more. Apple are the bad guys now. Get with the times.

Advantages of XP over 7
-Uses 750mb less RAM. That's $9 worth of RAM. Shocked
-...
-*Tumbleweed*

Advantages of 7 over XP
-Everything else
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2011-12-05 12:29:44 UTC
Steam hardware survey 2011

Windows 7 64 bit
44.62%
+0.96%

Windows XP 32 bit
17.92%
-0.93%

Windows Vista 64 bit
13.77%
+0.27%

Windows Vista 32 bit
12.14%
-0.28%

Windows 7
10.15%
+0.01%

Windows XP 64 bit
1.05%
+0.02%

Windows 2003 64 bit
0.24%
-0.02%

Other
0.10%
-0.04%


Wow. Given 4 more months, Vista will overtake XP.
Amusing.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#76 - 2011-12-05 12:55:24 UTC
Well, CCP has ONE day to fix this before my sub runs out because I can't click the goddamn PLEX to resub, k?
2bhammered
Cyberpunk 2077
#77 - 2011-12-05 13:24:05 UTC
Well i would like to mention ... WINDOWS 7 ISNT FREE FOOL PAY FOR IT

btw i run 4 monitors and 12 gig of ram on xp and can run 6 accounts on high graphics.. the problem is on ccps end... and also you are wrong xp will be supported by 80 percent of companies until MS drops support which wont be till 2014 so ... tear who cares stop crying you have windows 7 cool.. get a tee-shirt
Famble
Three's a Crowd
#78 - 2011-12-05 14:43:09 UTC
IT guy stating that half my clients still run WinXP. I'm upgrading them to Win7 as their hardware dies, no sense upgrading sooner, XP is fine. Servers are getting new OS love in a couple of months.

At home, two Win7 desktops and an XP rig for network backups, media streaming etc.

I love Win7 but sheesh XP is perfectly fine, upgrade if you want to but you certainly don't NEED to for a couple more years yet. Support is either through or to 2014 I forget.

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Serena Wilde
State War Academy
Caldari State
#79 - 2011-12-05 14:53:46 UTC
I'm running XP 32bit and I have no problem running 2 clients at all on my computer. Albeit, I am running in Windowed mode...

There is nothing wrong with running Windows XP, I find. I will upgrade once I build a new computer, but until then, I have no need to; this one is working fine.

The funny thing is, those people that are running XP are having less major problems than Windows 7 users while playing Skyrim...
Generals4
#80 - 2011-12-05 14:55:02 UTC
Acac Sunflyier wrote:
Mussaschi wrote:
Anyone has an info when this windows not drawn bug on windows xp will be fixed?

It works somehow with one client (at least mostly), but I would love to use more than one again, and windowed mode is not really a turn on




Probably never. Windows XP was released October 25, 2001. Making the game XP compatible would be working backwards. It is time to upgrade to 7.


... I bought this PC back in the Vista times, i obviously choose for XP and i ain't shelling god knows how much to upgrade a pc that is now most likely worth less than the price of W7.

This said i personally have little to no issues regarding XP compatibility.

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