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Pavel Bidermann
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2011-12-05 06:58:51 UTC
Confirming low sec is terrible mining. There's no depth of defense in low sec. High sec has no depth to intel so it's a challenge there too. Ganking isn't new. Null has both depth of intel and depth of defense so much safer. That makes null potentially safer to mine. Again though, you own alliance will probably kill you so it's best not to start. P
Perdomo Solymani
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#62 - 2011-12-05 07:22:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Perdomo Solymani
I feel the ore is being largely forgotten in this conversation. You can't PvP ore out of an asteroid. It needs to come out somehow. And people use those minerals to make stuff.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#63 - 2011-12-05 08:07:07 UTC
Perdomo Solymani wrote:
I feel the ore is being largely forgotten in this conversation. You can't PvP ore out of an asteroid. It needs to come out somehow. And people use those minerals to make stuff.


*coughcough*Drone Regions*coughcoughcoughcoughcough*Oops*coughGASPcoughcoughcoughcough*

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Valei Khurelem
#64 - 2011-12-05 08:10:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
So you're complaining that high sec players are smart enough to stay entirely out of low sec and 0.0 altogether while making plenty of ISK there and so you're resorting to gate camping 24/7 in order to blow up a ship or two because people won't play your version of what the game should be anymore?

Yeah, that makes sense, frankly I think all these gankers are complaining that the industrials and miners have beaten them at their own game, the only difference is CONCORD is doing their ganking for them.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
#65 - 2011-12-05 09:32:21 UTC
Hellen Kurvora wrote:
It is risk equals reward.


Hang on a minute, can you explain "risk equals reward" to me ?

If i fly my retriever out to low sec, thats risky becasue i might got blown up, does that mean i qualify for a reward... is it a good reward... what do i get, what do i get... i want it now, please can i have it now ?

Or do you mean Risk v's Reward ?
Anshio Tamark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#66 - 2011-12-05 09:55:06 UTC
And what if we actually like being in High-sec? What about the corps that don't have enough members to protect their mining fleets in null-sec? You do realize that there's a reason miners stay the **** out of low-sec and null-sec, right?
Anshio Tamark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2011-12-05 09:57:46 UTC
Pavel Bidermann wrote:
Again though, you own alliance will probably kill you so it's best not to start. P

And what exactly would such an alliance gain from shooting their own? Free space in the member-register? The way I choose to see it, alliances are meant to be groups of players who work together to achieve a common goal, not just blow eachother up for fun and no profit.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#68 - 2011-12-05 10:12:15 UTC
Hellen Kurvora wrote:


Well, we are making more isk out here at the gate then the guys complaining in high sec and getting suicide ganked. No probs here. Just would be more fun with some more variety and people with some balls to fight.


Wanna bet?
Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2011-12-05 10:16:09 UTC
Suicide gankers still don't impress me. Maybe they will if they start to go after mission runners. For now though they are nothing but hot air trying to be cool.

The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#70 - 2011-12-05 13:11:06 UTC
Lucien Visteen wrote:
Suicide gankers still don't impress me. Maybe they will if they start to go after mission runners. For now though they are nothing but hot air trying to be cool.


Suicide gankers take out loot piñata Tengus and BSes all the time. They're easier than freighters due to their lack of EHP.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon