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Cheater Reloaded and Pandemic ladies and the future of Tournaments…

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Justin Mighty Beiber
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-06-05 09:58:26 UTC
Dear CCP,

How long are you going to let these teams operate in your tournaments? Look at the way Cheater Reloaded mocked the NEO 2 with their slaves Turn Left fielding the same compositions in back to back games against different opponents while also sharing players between both teams. I have no clue why the commentators seem to think that these teams are working within the rules or not working together (oh yeah they had some ships fit differently)??

Competition between teams has been raising each year with teams now willing to train and start testing 4 months before an announced tournament, but every time without fail the cheaters will turn up in local or in your wormhole (Just like how PL infiltrated hydras in previous tournaments). So CCP I implore you to please start giving duality or something close to what you did for atx 11 so WE the players can focus on making our teams more competitive and stop the spy network of Cheater Reloaded and Pandemic ladies.

IF you CCP want the tournaments more legitimized with bigger and better sponsorship deals to help promote this beautiful games tournaments, you might want to think of public opinion and the way outsiders view your tournaments! Watching what Cheaters and Pandemic fight other teams when they know what the other team is fielding isn’t exactly fun viewing.


Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2014-06-05 18:08:38 UTC
urn reel moni
Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2014-06-06 01:32:30 UTC
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Pandemic ladies


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Tzuko1
The All-Seeing Eye
GaNg BaNg TeAm
#4 - 2014-06-06 07:07:55 UTC
god wils it !
xXxBadAssxXx1998xXx
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-06-06 15:35:50 UTC
Dear CCP,

How long are you going to let these teams operate in your tournaments? Look at the way they mocked the NEO 2 with the lack of effort they put into their preparation. They test for many months without learning from their mistakes or becoming better. When they lose they put their hands up and expect the system to change and accommodate them so they don't have to adapt their game. They don't care that the same tools are available to everyone because it is much easier to whine. I have no clue why the commentators are forced to pretend that their poorly thought out and executed setups make sense (oh yeah they stumbled onto some success a while ago)??

Competition between teams has been rising each year with newer teams surpassing the level of these older self entitled teams. But every time without fail these teams will turn up on the forums and whine. So CCP I implore you to please start a second tournament where everyone these teams complain about isn't allowed to enter. This way these teams can go back to their delusions about competitiveness. Please also release rules 1 year in advance because 4 months isn't enough time for these teams to make a good setup.

IF you CCP want the tournaments more legitimized with bigger and better sponsorship deals to help promote this beautiful games tournaments, you might want to think of public opinion and the way outsiders view your tournaments! Watching self entitled teams constantly whine on your forums and make new teams think its impossible to compete isn’t exactly helping.

God bless ^_^
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#6 - 2014-06-06 16:09:34 UTC
So OP wants a tournament without The Camel Empire, PL, Hydra .Exodus and WeHURT? Oh and rzr and ISN also trained a bit together, also ban them?

Isn't that a bit excessive?

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#7 - 2014-06-06 16:16:07 UTC
Calling names clearly makes your opinion more significant.

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Nebula XII
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-06-06 16:27:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Nebula XII
l0rd carlos wrote:
Isn't that a bit excessive?


Do you want being reasonable from a person who first calls PL and HYDRA "cheaters" for spying (inclining their victories aren't fair) and then refers to ATXI and duality when no spying was involved and PL and HYDRA still were in the finals?Shocked

Ps inbefore he declares that atxi wins were "bought" with uniques Lol
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#9 - 2014-06-06 17:15:13 UTC
Personally, I think that anyone who stoops to the despicable tactics of spying(!) on test servers is a rapscallion and a knave of the highest order. They should be ashamed of themselves.

Seriously though, we have absolutely no rules against test server spying as long as players do not actively interfere with practices.

I am happy to be able to say that we will have Duality available for tournament competitors with locked systems similar to last year.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/alliance-tournament-xii-practice-server-information
More information will be coming in the near future.

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Justin Mighty Beiber
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-06-06 19:06:20 UTC
Nebula XII wrote:
l0rd carlos wrote:
Isn't that a bit excessive?


Do you want being reasonable from a person who first calls PL and HYDRA "cheaters" for spying (inclining their victories aren't fair) and then refers to ATXI and duality when no spying was involved and PL and HYDRA still were in the finals?Shocked

Ps inbefore he declares that atxi wins were "bought" with uniques Lol


Hydra are cheaters, it’s a fact they weren’t banned from tournaments for no reason mate. They are always looking to bend the rules as much as possible and to think otherwise just shows me how blind sighted you must be or maybe you’re just a fan boy (which I can understand they are a good team).

Just watch the Neo 2 matches and tell me that there was no collusion between thingy and warlords with which setups to bring and in what order!!

Also I might add there will be spying on duality, teams like PL have already infiltrated mid-level teams. I wish I could say more on this issue!
Bluemelon
ElitistOps
Deepwater Hooligans
#11 - 2014-06-06 19:30:36 UTC
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HYDRA RELOADED
#12 - 2014-06-06 19:32:30 UTC
Justin Mighty Beiber wrote:

Also I might add there will be spying on duality, teams like PL have already infiltrated mid-level teams. I wish I could say more on this issue!


I have alts in like 2/3rds of the teams we expect to be in AT, and about 1/3rd of those are director level. Most scrub corps have no corp security, you can basically be a director by asking.
Suitonia
Order of the Red Kestrel
#13 - 2014-06-06 19:34:01 UTC
Justin Mighty Beiber wrote:

Hydra are cheaters, it’s a fact they weren’t banned from tournaments for no reason mate. They are always looking to bend the rules as much as possible and to think otherwise just shows me how blind sighted you must be or maybe you’re just a fan boy (which I can understand they are a good team).

Just watch the Neo 2 matches and tell me that there was no collusion between thingy and warlords with which setups to bring and in what order!!

Also I might add there will be spying on duality, teams like PL have already infiltrated mid-level teams. I wish I could say more on this issue!


Don't worry 'Justin Mighty Beiber' (AKA alt poster from Volta), You're not even considered a "mid-level team" by us and PL so you don't have to worry about spies. hth.

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FaartSP
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-06-06 19:48:01 UTC
we will see where hydra places now that there is duality this year loooool
Nebula XII
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-06-06 19:51:29 UTC
Fielding 4 teams and not even getting one into top4 was a huge blow to you, guys, right?
Justin Mighty Beiber
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-06-06 20:21:12 UTC
Suitonia wrote:
Justin Mighty Beiber wrote:

Hydra are cheaters, it’s a fact they weren’t banned from tournaments for no reason mate. They are always looking to bend the rules as much as possible and to think otherwise just shows me how blind sighted you must be or maybe you’re just a fan boy (which I can understand they are a good team).

Just watch the Neo 2 matches and tell me that there was no collusion between thingy and warlords with which setups to bring and in what order!!

Also I might add there will be spying on duality, teams like PL have already infiltrated mid-level teams. I wish I could say more on this issue!


Don't worry 'Justin Mighty Beiber' (AKA alt poster from Volta), You're not even considered a "mid-level team" by us and PL so you don't have to worry about spies. hth.


You're right they aren't a mid level team. I see I hit a nerve with you, just relax and do what you do best!
Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#17 - 2014-06-06 20:30:06 UTC
volta comms on every match

"What?! They brought spaceships?! They hard countered us! They must have spies!"
Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#18 - 2014-06-06 20:30:58 UTC
For anyone here who isn't a huge ******* cryhard, TEST is having open skirms if you want to come steal our setups. Saturdays at 19:00, currently in S-U8, possibly in a different system if duality is up.

Cheers.
Elmnt80
Life. Universe. Everything.
#19 - 2014-06-06 21:15:53 UTC
I have found our hydra spies to be wonderful people to discuss tactics and fleet comps with in local. I'm not sure where the hate is coming from.
Justin Mighty Beiber
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-06-06 21:20:26 UTC
Elmnt80 wrote:
I have found our hydra spies to be wonderful people to discuss tactics and fleet comps with in local. I'm not sure where the hate is coming from.



This thread is very interesting to me, i wanted to attack two teams and ended attacking three lmao.
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