EVE General Discussion

some of the lore is great for explaining stuff that happens in game, like the wormholes, the bright star that vanished, dust clone tech, soon valk clone tech, the prophecy trailer, etc.

Just shy above zero. Besides making some Caldari/Gallente/Minnie/Amarr are scum/Master Race remarks every now and then I couldn't care less.

This might have something to do with the fact that EVE has the immersive experience of holding your willy in your right hand and pretending to be in a fighter jet....

Just some noise in the cosmic background.

I find Eve's lore fascinating, and wished it had more of a true impact in PvE. But honestly, I make virtually no use of the lore.

there's not enough lore imo. Eve would be infinitely better if lore twisted itself around gameplay. I'd like to get to know npcs better, for them to influence gamestyle choices. When running missions to actually feel they matter in some way, altering the universe.

Same goes with exploration activities: would be much more immersive if archaeology/hacking was connected to rich stories, perhaps discovering aspects of lore uncovered before, maybe even integrating it with Jovian space. Maybe this requires another post, but atm exploration - and most activities - are entirely about isk creation. Exploration + lore could be an incredible addition to deepening the Eve experience, maybe discovering secrets that lead to hidden bases where unique skills can be acquired from ancient hidden races and so on and so on.
Would be much more interesting for those who find pew pew dull.

the lore in Eve is inappropriately used. As is, lore is just an excuse for an origin to any new feature added to the game. Little more than a backwards looking descriptor for game elements. For example, the fact that Incursions are Sancha comes off more as a random selection than because Sancha was selected for a reason. No PvE really has any unique lore 'flavor' beyond which ammo to load or tank modules to fit.


The lore becomes a yoke around the neck of gameplay. Lore is why we have NPC's with single DPS types and tank types- meaning that lore is the justification for the dull, repetitive nature of (combat) PvE. It's also why there is such a huge gulf between PvE and PvP, and why people can shoot rats for years in Eve, yet be clueless as to PvP. Why would powerful NPC factions so limit themselves to a single type of tank? Because the lore says they do.
The lore pretends there is a difference between NPC's when in reality, they are all basically the same AI, using the same tactics. The difference between NPC's really boils down to modeling skins.


Lore just doesn't matter. The origins of one pirate faction or another is irrelevant since other than tuning some resists and ammo selection, they are virtually identical. Who you fight is a matter of which faction CCP dropped in the area you are in anyway. ie- I shoot Serpentis not because I chose them- but merely because the ONLY rats in the entire chunk of the map I live in, will always be Serpentis.

The Lore also doesn't make basic sense. How can 'pirate' factions have far larger navies and resources than the official empires? Since we wipe out entire armadas of pirates with every anom, mission, or belt encounter- and thousands of capsuleers are doing this daily-- that would make the pirate NPC's vastly VASTLY more powerful than the official empires. We see very little space travel that isnt capsuleers in empire space, but pirate NPC's seem to have limitless resources and pilots.

It's like when you go to see a movie at the cinema and the effects are state of the art but the story is non-existent. Then you don't give a f*** about the characters and the movie is s***.

2 out of 3 aint bad

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Part of what bothers me about Eve is its half assed-ness.

I was directed to Eve lore whenever we had the "does your ship have crew" debate several years ago. Some of what was presented said there was a crew present, some of it said there was not. After the first round the devs came by and insisted there was. Then they never did anything about it. So the lore contradicted itself and the lore that the devs said was right was left out of the game.

The general backstory is ok I guess, but largely irrelevant.

I really wish it mattered because I would enjoy it if did. But really seems to be ignored by the game.