Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Sure. Just look at the cerberus, nighthawk, CNR, golem...

Wrong forum.

This belongs: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=270 here.

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I know I feel your pain. You have to train up rockets/heavies/hams/ cruises/ torps as well in order from largest to smallest. Its not as easy as any of the rail platforms where we just get any ship at any size and fit the appropriate size gun you want.

I do agree the amount of training time to move up in ships for caldari is rediculous. I am surprised anyone flies them with the amount of time/isk that it takes to invest in them. I can only hope that in the next patch they WOW up the caldari race and maybe give them a planet to kill lvl 3 pigs over and over again to power lvl the caldari mission runners.

I hope I brought some ideas to the table for a helpful buff to the caldari resistanse. FIGHT THE POWER


your helpfull fried potatoe

This is what i mean, I hate seeing a new ship and then oh it uses large rails which take forever to get into. They need to make some new missile boats. Once i reach a certain level i'm stuck with that ship until i reach the next level of ship. Why use a ferox when i have a drake already trained up and ready to tank? Why train for a rokh when my raven gets the job done?

Confirming that they produce hilarious kms.

welcome to eve. every race has this. Its called progession. ride ship a to get ship b. ship b grind to ship c.



Amarr spams harb till they go t2/t3/bs.

Canes of the winmatar lead to sleips, loki, varg and pests.

gallente do the same.



BC's are now the only ship class gun boats outnumber missile boats for caldari. When those other gun boats are the lolrox and vulture....this not even an imbalance. Naga is actually an apology to caladari who trained guns imo. Beyond bc's...dude, way more missile options than gun ones.

May not like those options or effort involved, but they are there. Every other race has their ugly duckling ship per class that sits unloved, this is not a caldari exclusive feature.

I dont have much experience in this game, but sure i've played a lot of games in my life, and i can say a think about what i've played, about the caldary stuff, which i dont really like, i'm a bit off topic but i take the opportunity of a semi related 3d.
For me the whole missile ammo and launcher skillset has no point in how it works, the skill should be related in the engine of the missile type, not for their name, cause a light and heavy missile are the stupdi same missile in different size why the hell i should learn different skillset when they do the same thing?

A more sirius base skillset will be like this more of less:

-Guided missile skill: enable t1 light, heavy, cruise size missile, their t1 launcher and improve damage lvl on every guided missile

-Assault missile skill: enable t1 rocket, heavy assault, torpedo size missile, their t1 launcher and improve damage lvl on every assault missile (edit: ops confused)

-F.o.F. missile skill: enable fof ammo and damage on it

-defender missile skill: enable defender and improve their velocity on it


and the advanced stuff

-advance guided missile skill: enable guided missile t2 launcher and improve rate of fire lvl on it

-Fury guided missile skill: enable fury ammo and improve damage lvl on it

-Precision guided missile skill: enable precision ammo and decrese sig radius lvl on it

-advance assault missile skill: enable unguided missile t2 launcher and improve rate of fire lvl on it

-Rage assault missile skill: enable rage ammo and improve damage lvl on it

-javelin assault missile skill: enable javelin ammo and improve travel time lvl on it


super advanced stuff

-citadel guided missile skill: capital cruiser launcher and ammo

-citadel assault missile skill: capital torpedo launcher and ammo

The amount of skill point and skill required to train other skill will be different from now, but
-All have more sense
-No more tons of useless skill
-Less complex
-More efficent
-No sp waste
-and dev will probably have an easy mode to balance it about the skill point and about subpar or overpower type of missile engine i think
-Noob frendly (cause actually is a good for so many point of view, even if some people sure can think different)

Big change for big improve, hard to say if could be done easly, but i cant even think why the dev didnt developed the missile skill set directly in this way.

edit: thinking about it the advanced ammo skill can be swapped in less lvl subskill, like now for example
-light Fury guided missile skill: enable light fury ammo and improve damage lvl on it
-heavy fury guided missile skill: enable heavy fury ammo and improve damage lvl on it
-light Precision guided missile skill: enable light precision ammo and decrese sig radius lvl on it (wonna destroy drones xD?)
-heavy precision guided missile skill: enable heavy precision ammo and decrese sig radius lvl on it

you mean that in about 2 month you can use all t2 railgun size with high t2 ammo skill? Dosen't look like such a bad deal

edit: maybe i should just repost in the skill subforum :O

Not to mention that a 6-7mil SP toon can easily solo level IVs with a Drake, you aren't finding many other races accomplishing that one. Sure a myrm can tank a level IV, but you better have some time on your hands because it takes forever to kill anything.

Just wondering which Tengu do you fly with only Cuiser V.

Because I need this list of minimum skills:


Caldari Strategic Cruiser I
Caldari Cruiser V
Spaceship Command III
Caldari Frigate IV
Caldari Defensive Systems I
Shield Operation V
Engineering I
Mechanic III
Caldari Electronic Systems I
Electronics V
Caldari Engineering Systems I
Engineering V
Caldari Offensive Systems I
Missile Launcher Operation V
Gunnery III
Caldari Propulsion Systems I
Navigation V

While you're on it you might be able to explain where you get about 500,000,000.00 ISK in three weeks to finance it.

I don't want to be deff to your arguments but lets keep them realistic.

Secondly I don't get this comparing Missiles with Drones, drones are used over many ships, together with a second weapon system, missile launchers are the primairy weapon on their ships (I know there are carriers though that is not realy a a thing you want to compaire this with) .